First Pics of 3D spheroidal DP aggregate @ Dr. Nigam's Lab

[didi]

I don't know why but dr nigam seem to have lot of problems with people following up..

test subjects should get FREE procedure+money per visit...

Get some desperate nw7 jobless dude off the streets of Mumbai...it will be jackpot for him

[Arashi]

In the Netherlands (as in a lot of other countries too I guess) there's a company that recruits volunteers for medicine testing. Volunteers get compensated I think only about 1000 euro for a week of getting themselves injected with unapproved medicines. Sometimes volunteers get sick all week and sometimes even worse. It are usually poor people and students who do this. So if you can get someone to inject himself with unapproved medicines for a week for only 1000 euro, you surely could get some poor Indian guy to just shoot some photo's for that same amount.

[Arashi]

I don't know why but dr nigam seem to have lot of problems with people following up..

test subjects should get FREE procedure+money per visit...

Get some desperate nw7 jobless dude off the streets of Mumbai...it will be jackpot for him

It's an easy way for him to say "Ah, yeah test person just never came back", when the test actually just failed. If he gets a test person to do this test who never comes back, It's extremely suspicious. It should be damn easy to get people back to the clinic, who live close and for who $1000 is a damn high amount of money.

[veca]

Didi I do not have any info about visit Dr. Mwamba and Dr. Cole. We started this discussion for the transformation NW7 to NW1. This topic you mentioned every day for the last 2 months. Please stay focused on this. Ok, I realized that Didi and Arashi want it to be someone who is not a staff member. OK .... I said why it is not wise to choose the first balding guy on the street. I want to hear the wishes and opinions of other forum members.

[Arashi]

Ok, I realized that Didi and Arashi want it to be someone who is not a staff member. OK .... I said why it is not wise to choose the first balding guy on the street. I want to hear the wishes and opinions of other forum members.

No no, it doesn't matter at all. Staff member would be fine. That's the great thing about a slick bald NW7 who gets 5k grafts doubled to 10k. It's impossible to fake, IF he shoots a video of the guy showing today's paper (so that we really know the initial situation is slick bald and it is not some past patient who just responded extremely well to medicines). And if he then shaves the guys donor and shoots good enough pictures in which we can count all of his donor hairs, then how can he fake this ? The only way is that he can feed this guy like all the medicines in the world. But even that is really not a guarantee to grow hair back on a slick bald NW7, in fact, chances are quite small.

So that's why we keep pushing for a slick bald NW7. Can't be faked. And it doesn't matter who the test person is. Staff would be fine. But really, it has to be a slick bald NW7.

[Hicks]

What about Dr Coles regeneration claims, up to 70%, why nobody talk about this?


This is what 35yearsafter said in the other thread- he works for Dr Cole

"Dr. Cole has been documenting follicle regeneration in his patient's donor areas for years using ACell. ACell was approved by the FDA as a regenerative product. It's only available to physicians in the US. After a minimal depth follicle extraction, a gel containing ACell in suspension is placed in the extraction site. We have seen donor area regeneration up to 70%. around 50% is average. People find this hard to believe."

+1

Maybe he doesn't need these forums or tell the world what he is doing. Maybe his business plan is different than others. If I had the cure I wouldn't post on here. I'd do an article and if it made it to these "out of control forums" then great. If not who cares.

[Arashi]

And really the best way to prove this would be to get him to place all grafts into recipient. Because first of all that would improve the situation for this guy big time. 5k doubled to 10k and having them all placed in recipient for a NW7 would yield a big difference. A NW7 would get a full scalp of hair again ! So even with the naked eye we could almost just see that it worked, without counting grafts. And secondly the indepth analysis will be a lot easier when no grafts are placed back in donor (he could get that in a later session if he wanted, free of charge for example if he comes back for photo's).

When he does 5k and has 5k in recipient and 5k in donor, then the difference with the initial situation will be a lot smaller AND the indepth analysis will become really difficult. Not impossible, if very good photo's are being shot, it's possible, but it makes it a LOT more difficult to do the analysis. So I'd really really suggest to have everything in recipient. Much better result, easy to see without an indepth analysis that it worked and the indepth analysis is a lot easier too.

[Arashi]

And if he finds it difficult to convince someone for a megasession: even 2500 grafts doubled to 5000 and everything in recipient, would be enough to prove the case. As long as all the requirements are met: initial video + good photo's of shaven donor + slick bald NW7 and everything gets placed in recipient.

[didi]

NW7 needs 15 000 grafts in recepient...5 x 5 000 grafts spaced 4 months apart...

BUT how do we know he isn't splitting FUs?



We need reputable Dr from Western country to come and see what its all about.

simple as that...dr nigam will never deliver what we asked for, patients don't follow up/disappear ...main doctor gone, ....he lost control and credibility

[Arashi]

NW7 needs 15 000 grafts in recepient...5 x 5 000 grafts spaced 4 months apart...

BUT how do we know he isn't splitting FUs?



We need reputable Dr from Western country to come and see what its all about.

simple as that...dr nigam will never deliver what we asked for, patients don't follow up/disappear ...main doctor gone, ....he lost control and credibility

The more grafts the better !! If he can bring back a NW7 to someone with a full scalp of high density hair, then nobody cares about counting grafts !! But if this is difficult, or takes a lot of time, then even just 2500 doubled to 5000 and placed in recipient should be enough to prove his procedure. Well, final proof would be of course when the guy got 2 more procedures and get 15000 in total. But it would be a great start if he'd get this going with 2500 tot 5000.

[veca]

Didi, Arashi... ok I get it. Can you please stop post, I need the opinions of other people. Please, just leave a little space for others to say something...please

[gc83uk]

And really the best way to prove this would be to get him to place all grafts into recipient. Because first of all that would improve the situation for this guy big time. 5k doubled to 10k and having them all placed in recipient for a NW7 would yield a big difference. A NW7 would get a full scalp of hair again ! So even with the naked eye we could almost just see that it worked, without counting grafts. And secondly the indepth analysis will be a lot easier when no grafts are placed back in donor (he could get that in a later session if he wanted, free of charge for example if he comes back for photo's).

When he does 5k and has 5k in recipient and 5k in donor, then the difference with the initial situation will be a lot smaller AND the indepth analysis will become really difficult. Not impossible, if very good photo's are being shot, it's possible, but it makes it a LOT more difficult to do the analysis. So I'd really really suggest to have everything in recipient. Much better result, easy to see without an indepth analysis that it worked and the indepth analysis is a lot easier too.

Hmm I'm not sure about that.

Tell me something how many grafts does an NW7 have available for transplant usually, just an Average figure would be fine?

I'm assuming 3000-5000 grafts max.

Now if he takes 5000 grafts out of this guys donor area and 'doubles' these 5000 and places ALL in the recipient then of course we have 10,000 grafts growing in the recipient.

What happens when we want to do another 5000 grafts a few months later? Where are these grafts going to come from? Are you telling me we should extract them from his recipient?

This would be my suggestion.

Session 1, 5000 extractions from donor.
Place 5000 in the recipient and place the other 'part' (5000 grafts) back in the donor. Take good before and after photos from the donor.

If you take 5000 grafts out of a NW7's donor surely if there is no regrowth then you're going to be able to tell immediately, even without good photos!

Session 2, (about 6 months later or whatever)
5000 extractions from the donor (This will only be possible assuming regrowth from session 1)
Repeat same as session 1.

End result: 100% regrowth in the donor + 10,000 grafts in the recipient, should be approx 20,000 hairs. This forum closes down as we are all cured. Goodbye.

"This ain't rocket science" That quote sounds familiar.

[Arashi]

Hmm I'm not sure about that.

Tell me something how many grafts does an NW7 have available for transplant usually, just an Average figure would be fine?

I'm assuming 3000-5000 grafts max.

Now if he takes 5000 grafts out of this guys donor area and 'doubles' these 5000 and places ALL in the recipient then of course we have 10,000 grafts growing in the recipient.

What happens when we want to do another 5000 grafts a few months later? Where are these grafts going to come from? Are you telling me we should extract them from his recipient?

This would be my suggestion.

Session 1, 5000 extractions from donor.
Place 5000 in the recipient and place the other 'part' (5000 grafts) back in the donor. Take good before and after photos from the donor.

If you take 5000 grafts out of a NW7's donor surely if there is no regrowth then you're going to be able to tell immediately, even without good photos!

Session 2, (about 6 months later or whatever)
5000 extractions from the donor (This will only be possible assuming regrowth from session 1)
Repeat same as session 1.

End result: 100% regrowth in the donor + 10,000 grafts in the recipient, should be approx 20,000 hairs. This forum closes down as we are all cured. Goodbye.

"This ain't rocket science" That quote sounds familiar.

Agreed Gaz. That's even a better idea. No need to count anything at all. The visual result would just be the final proof.

[Arashi]

And then just figure out a smart way to get this guy back to the clinic for his 2nd procedure and for his photo sessions. Again money talks. And what's a few thousands of dollars if he can convince the world he's for real and effectively cured hairloss ? In fact, what's even 50k usd ? Not saying he should pay the guy $50.000 but just saying that if that's what's needed, it's only a small price relatively to the amount of money Nigams would make if the whole world would visit his clinics all of the world.

[NeedHairASAP]

"doubling", as far as I can tell, is when nigam extracts a 2-hair FU using FUE, and then in a petri dish or whatever, he split it into two follicles with a knife-- then implants half in the recipient and half in the donor.

Docs have been doing this for years, hasson has been splitting hairs down to single one-hair follicles FOR YEARS. But hasson uses the one haired grafts around the hairline for aesthetic reasons and never implanted them back in the donor (mostly cause he did FUT)

point being, he is doing nothing even remotely new.


it would be good if he got 5k 2 to 3 hair grafts and split them into 10-15k one hair grafts and put them all in the recipient, but I dunno.... not much to see here in my opinion.

there is no "doubling" of anything... and he'd probably get in trouble with that type of advertising and marketing in any other country.