First Pics of 3D spheroidal DP aggregate @ Dr. Nigam's Lab

[UK_]

You know what, I think that all this is not worth the effort. I will not post for next few days, because it seems to me the only Arashi, Didi and several other members of the forum will never be satisfied. I think that for them, there is no adequate case which would remove their doubts. After all, why should I harassed Dr. Nigam and took his precious time to convince few forum members that he does not lie. If I see that there is a "healthy interest" of other members of the forum, I might convince Dr. Nigam to do so. But if you come for a few days and I find 15 pages of Arashi and Didi discussions and BS will be no need for this experiment.

Why are you using fear tactics on us? The more you post, the more you sound like a salesman.

No person with a brain is going to give any money until the procedure is PROVEN to work.

We want a NW7 patient treated with 15,000 grafts just like Arashi has stated in his post above before we even think of having a procedure.

To confirm, this is what we want:

So, we need a:

* Slick bald NW7
* shoot video of initial situation holding today's newspaper
* Shave donor and shoot high quality pictures of donor
* Give him 15k grafts
* In the end shave his hair down to 4-5 mm and shoot new pictures.

[veca]

Why are you using fear tactics on us? The more you post, the more you sound like a salesman.

No person with a brain is going to give any money until the procedure is PROVEN to work.

We want a NW7 patient treated with 15,000 grafts just like Arashi has stated in his post above before we even think of having a procedure.

To confirm, this is what we want:

I do not fear you, but you're talking nonsense, I asked you to leave a little space on this thread that we can see how many people there are who are interested in this experiment! Also I want to hear their opinion. If you want to Dr. Nigam recruit potential patients on the street, it will take maybe a month or more. Another thing, Dr. Nigam has no free time to do it. We have an excellent case, which are available to us right now! Another thing, if there's an expert as boldy and says that it is not a good case, and we need to find someone else, I'll take it into consideration. Now please leave a little room that others share their opinions

[Arashi]

You know what, I think that all this is not worth the effort. I will not post for next few days, because it seems to me the only Arashi, Didi and several other members of the forum will never be satisfied. I think that for them, there is no adequate case which would remove their doubts. After all, why should I harassed Dr. Nigam and took his precious time to convince few forum members that he does not lie. If I see that there is a "healthy interest" of other members of the forum, I might convince Dr. Nigam to do so. But if you come for a few days and I find 15 pages of Arashi and Didi discussions and BS will be no need for this experiment.

Haha, you're just getting scared cause you know there's no way to fake the results. Our requirements are really really easy:

* Slick bald NW7
* shoot video of initial situation holding today's newspaper
* Shave donor and shoot high quality pictures of donor
* Give him 15k grafts
* In the end shave his hair down to 4-5 mm and shoot new pictures.

If you can't even get that, then indeed, please go away forever and NEVER come back.

[gc83uk]

You know what, I think that all this is not worth the effort. I will not post for next few days, because it seems to me the only Arashi, Didi and several other members of the forum will never be satisfied. I think that for them, there is no adequate case which would remove their doubts. After all, why should I harassed Dr. Nigam and took his precious time to convince few forum members that he does not lie. If I see that there is a "healthy interest" of other members of the forum, I might convince Dr. Nigam to do so. But if you come for a few days and I find 15 pages of Arashi and Didi discussions and BS will be no need for this experiment.

Stop wasting everyones time mate. You asked what we wanted and now we have told you. I'm in contact with Nigam myself, albeit not everyday like you. If you want to be the BTT spokeman or whatever, then great, but don't start back tracking now after we have told you what we want to see, especially after you asked!

Mental!

[veca]

Haha, you're just getting scared cause you know there's no way to fake the results. Our requirements are really really easy:

* Slick bald NW7
* shoot video of initial situation holding today's newspaper
* Shave donor and shoot high quality pictures of donor
* Give him 15k grafts
* In the end shave his hair down to 4-5 mm and shoot new pictures.

If you can't even get that, then indeed, please go away forever and NEVER come back.

No problem bro...

[veca]

Stop wasting everyones time mate. You asked what we wanted and now we have told you. I'm in contact with Nigam myself, albeit not everyday like you. If you want to be the BTT spokeman or whatever, then great, but don't start back tracking now after we have told you what we want to see, especially after you asked!

Mental!

Thanks for the compliment, I'm very sorry that the other guys will not be able to see such a good experiment to prove Dr. Nigam claims. Good luck guys

[gc83uk]

Thanks for the compliment, I'm very sorry that the other guys will not be able to see such a good experiment to prove Dr. Nigam claims. Good luck guys

I'll ask Dr Nigam myself. Thanks

[greatjob!]

I don't understand why it seems Dr. Nigam needs direction, proposals, or agreement from the forum. It's very weird. We always hear from Dr. Nigam and now veca they make a proposal like "I will do doubling on NW7 and transform him into a NW1 if you all agree". Why is he seeking approval/advice from the forum? He claims to be curing baldness, then just do it already!!! If you can't figure out how do the simple task of proving to people you are legit by selecting suitable candidates and making sufficient credible documentation to back up your claims, then there is no way you are capable of curing a disease that no one has been able to cure in thousands of years. I mean he claims to have the hard part figured out, but can't figure out the easy part of how to select a good candidate and properly document it, c'mon man!

I'm done worrying about Dr. Nigam. My advice to Dr. Nigam/veca is to stop posting until you have proof to back up your claims, which is what Nigam should have done in the first place. Don't come on to a forum making wild claims that you are curing baldness with zero evidence to back up the claims, and then get made and throw a temper-tantrum and play the victim when people rightfully question if you are a fraud or not. I generally assume anyone that stands to make large monetary gains is a fraud until they prove otherwise.

[gc83uk]

I don't understand why it seems Dr. Nigam needs direction, proposals, or agreement from the forum. It's very weird. We always hear from Dr. Nigam and now veca they make a proposal like "I will do doubling on NW7 and transform him into a NW1 if you all agree". Why is he seeking approval/advice from the forum? He claims to be curing baldness, then just do it already!!! If you can't figure out how do the simple task of proving to people you are legit by selecting suitable candidates and making sufficient credible documentation to back up your claims, then there is no way you are capable of curing a disease that no one has been able to cure in thousands of years. I mean he claims to have the hard part figured out, but can't figure out the easy part of how to select a good candidate and properly document it, c'mon man!

I'm done worrying about Dr. Nigam. My advice to Dr. Nigam/veca is to stop posting until you have proof to back up your claims, which is what Nigam should have done in the first place. Don't come on to a forum making wild claims that you are curing baldness with zero evidence to back up the claims, and then get made and throw a temper-tantrum and play the victim when people rightfully question if you are a fraud or not. I generally assume anyone that stands to make large monetary gains is a fraud until they prove otherwise.

Totally agree - hit the nail on the head mate!

I'd also go one further. Dr Nigam really should be proving his technique whether it's via a peer reviewed paper or some something along those lines before selling his procedure to albeit willing guinea pigs. Correct me if I'm wrong?

I'm not saying it's illegal, people can do as they wish, but it seems immoral taking money off people before documenting conclusive proof that it actually works. I'm aware he has offered free procedures to the forum members, which I encourage, especially if it helps prove or disprove what he is selling.

On a positive note, I do think he genuinely believes what he is selling e.g 'Doubling' works. So I wouldn't call him a fraud, but probably naive would be a fairer assessment.

And of course it's a possibility that the doubling and more advanced procedures which he is exploring with Boldy etc will come to fruition.

[Arashi]

I don't understand why it seems Dr. Nigam needs direction, proposals, or agreement from the forum. It's very weird. We always hear from Dr. Nigam and now veca they make a proposal like "I will do doubling on NW7 and transform him into a NW1 if you all agree". Why is he seeking approval/advice from the forum? He claims to be curing baldness, then just do it already!!! If you can't figure out how do the simple task of proving to people you are legit by selecting suitable candidates and making sufficient credible documentation to back up your claims, then there is no way you are capable of curing a disease that no one has been able to cure in thousands of years. I mean he claims to have the hard part figured out, but can't figure out the easy part of how to select a good candidate and properly document it, c'mon man!

I'm done worrying about Dr. Nigam. My advice to Dr. Nigam/veca is to stop posting until you have proof to back up your claims, which is what Nigam should have done in the first place. Don't come on to a forum making wild claims that you are curing baldness with zero evidence to back up the claims, and then get made and throw a temper-tantrum and play the victim when people rightfully question if you are a fraud or not. I generally assume anyone that stands to make large monetary gains is a fraud until they prove otherwise.

+1. No, +10000 ! Really the core of the matter. If you can't even perform a relatively easy task and figure out how to prove your method beyond reasonable doubt, then how in the world are you going to be smart enough to cure baldness ?

[Dees Dab]

Hmm I'm not sure about that.

Tell me something how many grafts does an NW7 have available for transplant usually, just an Average figure would be fine?

I'm assuming 3000-5000 grafts max.

Now if he takes 5000 grafts out of this guys donor area and 'doubles' these 5000 and places ALL in the recipient then of course we have 10,000 grafts growing in the recipient.

What happens when we want to do another 5000 grafts a few months later? Where are these grafts going to come from? Are you telling me we should extract them from his recipient?

This would be my suggestion.

Session 1, 5000 extractions from donor.
Place 5000 in the recipient and place the other 'part' (5000 grafts) back in the donor. Take good before and after photos from the donor.

If you take 5000 grafts out of a NW7's donor surely if there is no regrowth then you're going to be able to tell immediately, even without good photos!

Session 2, (about 6 months later or whatever)
5000 extractions from the donor (This will only be possible assuming regrowth from session 1)
Repeat same as session 1.

End result: 100% regrowth in the donor + 10,000 grafts in the recipient, should be approx 20,000 hairs. This forum closes down as we are all cured. Goodbye.

"This ain't rocket science" That quote sounds familiar.

Veca, i would like the procedure, oops, I mean the experiment to be done the way GC suggests here. In 2 sessions.

I don't think the 50 graft test patient was slick bald.

Find a slick NW7 patient, tell him it's free to start and 1000 dollars each follow up visit for photos (3,6,9,12 months) for a total of $4000 in his pocket.

If proven, Dr Nigam will then be making more than rocket scientists or brain surgeons.

[hellouser]

This NW7 - NW2 shit has been going on for a YEAR without a single case being documented with solid evidence. Either the Dr. Nigams threads end RIGHT NOW or he posts a proper case!

I cannot believe this has gone on for as long as it has.

[534623]

This NW7 - NW2 shit has been going on for a YEAR without a single case being documented with solid evidence. Either the Dr. Nigams threads end RIGHT NOW or he posts a proper case!

I cannot believe this has gone on for as long as it has.

Sorry for the stupid question (or maybe I just missed something) but where exactly is the difference between Nigam and your cow-licking threads??

[hellouser]

Sorry for the stupid question (or maybe I just missed something) but where exactly is the difference between Nigam and your cow-licking threads??

Somewhere between the measly 1,400 grafts you got with zero regeneration and the $15,000 USD you pissed away on it.

[534623]

Somewhere between the measly 1,400 grafts you got with zero regeneration and the $15,000 USD you pissed away on it.

hmmm, sounds rather you're the one who is pissed ...lol

Anyway, I think you should move on with your $ 1.4 dermaroller and growth factors for $15 (too expensive for you?) from "Kane".

oh, and don't forget to document the result - with solid evidence.