First Pics of 3D spheroidal DP aggregate @ Dr. Nigam's Lab

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  • didi
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1360

    #91
    In the last TBT radio show Spence talked about dr nigams and how he got pissed off..

    I think nigams is angry bc Spence dnt take him seriously

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    • greatjob!
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 909

      #92
      Originally posted by veca
      My brother, I am just an ordinary victim of hair loss. :-) Just like you ...you can call me a representative of Dr. Nigam for BTT
      So you are Dr. Nigams rep or not?

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      • veca
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 219

        #93
        Originally posted by greatjob!
        So you are Dr. Nigams rep or not?
        something like a representative ... for now, why?

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        • greatjob!
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 909

          #94
          Originally posted by veca
          something like a representative ... for now, why?
          Just curious/like to know what's going on. No big deal it was just that Dr. Nigam disappeared and then you stepped in as his surrogate and I was curious.

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          • clandestine
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 2002

            #95
            Alright; some microscopic pictures.

            Now, then, where are the results?

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            • clandestine
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2002

              #96
              Originally posted by greatjob!
              Just curious/like to know what's going on. No big deal it was just that Dr. Nigam disappeared and then you stepped in as his surrogate and I was curious.
              Probably because the entire btt forum shat on him.

              To clarify; I don't advocate this. I feel he's doing a great service, in terms of innovative hair loss practices.

              But it's what we did.

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              • veca
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 219

                #97
                Clandestine thank you for make it easier for me, I do not have to write 1158 lines of text, trying to explain what you explained in one sentence. I'll tell you one more thing ... do not ever ask me again if I was his spokesman, representative, surrogate, double, employee, attorney, etc. No, I have no financial interest! I am a man with the same problems that you have, I'm losing hair for 10 years and crazy about it. Follow TBT last three years, I was an active member but I visited this forum every ****ing day while Aderans, Histogen, Replicel, follicle and others represented the hope for us. Late, last year I became a member of this forum. Through a lot of shit I've been through in my life and this is just another episode. In my country was a war when I was a kid ... so the problem of hair loss is nothing in comparison with other life problems. But hey, we can solve this problem, in this or in any other way.I do this because I believe that Dr. Nigam has something that can help us. I'm not the only one who thinks this way. As you can see, my English is bad, and I'm losing a lot of time at work trying to write something in the forum, and it is not hard to do because the guys who have understanding and patience.

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                • didi
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1360

                  #98
                  He came on this forum making some big claims, One year later he got nothing to show for it...now we are going back to some microscopic images

                  Initial claim was 50% of patients gets great results, 30% so so and 20% no results..he said that last year about HM...how could he determine these percentages with no documentation or very poor documentation?
                  he underestimated our intelligence, perhaps in india people are more naïve..to trick westerners you gotta come up with something better than that


                  With donor doubling he claims recipient and donor have over 100% regen/growth rate and it works on everyone, 5 000 sessions possible spaced 3-4 months apart, 100 transplants per per month....


                  These are some IMPRESSIVE claims/numbers and if true proving it would be cakewalk yet dr nigam got caught posting fake photos

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                  • HARIRI
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 467

                    #99
                    Originally posted by didi
                    He came on this forum making some big claims, One year later he got nothing to show for it...now we are going back to some microscopic images

                    Initial claim was 50% of patients gets great results, 30% so so and 20% no results..he said that last year about HM...how could he determine these percentages with no documentation or very poor documentation?
                    he underestimated our intelligence, perhaps in india people are more naïve..to trick westerners you gotta come up with something better than that


                    With donor doubling he claims recipient and donor have over 100% regen/growth rate and it works on everyone, 5 000 sessions possible spaced 3-4 months apart, 100 transplants per per month....


                    These are some IMPRESSIVE claims/numbers and if true proving it would be cakewalk yet dr nigam got caught posting fake photos
                    Well I like Dr. Nigam and his donor doubling innovative concept but this time didi made good sense. I cant disagree with him. Dr. Nigam has serious documentation issues (Great PreOp/ Op photos, Bad Post Op photos). That is the main reason why Spencer Kobren was skeptical in interviewing him

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                    • veca
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 219

                      Originally posted by didi
                      He came on this forum making some big claims, One year later he got nothing to show for it...now we are going back to some microscopic images

                      Initial claim was 50% of patients gets great results, 30% so so and 20% no results..he said that last year about HM...how could he determine these percentages with no documentation or very poor documentation?
                      he underestimated our intelligence, perhaps in india people are more naïve..to trick westerners you gotta come up with something better than that


                      With donor doubling he claims recipient and donor have over 100% regen/growth rate and it works on everyone, 5 000 sessions possible spaced 3-4 months apart, 100 transplants per per month....


                      These are some IMPRESSIVE claims/numbers and if true proving it would be cakewalk yet dr nigam got caught posting fake photos
                      Your problem is that you know a little about regenerative medicine. And that's ok, I'm not an expert, but you have to read some things that you would easily understand what Dr. Nigam trying to achieve

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                      • veca
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 219

                        Here are two published papers and study..which gives a clue that doubling is possible...Dr. Niga have few independent studies too which are not there on the net...whcih have proven that doubling is very much possible....due to trade secret i caanot post them
                        Important thing... it is only with the help of tissue engeneering like...multiplied stemcells,2d/3d dp spheroids,growth factors...can we achieve higher yield with doubling
                        Doubling is all about regenerative medicine..hence more we work on stemcells.dpcuptures,growth factors..better the chances of success with any doubling technique..doubling is not possible without the help of regenerative medicine...hence he has to focus of hm/dp cultures/gf...and applythe findings to improve doubling.

                        Restoration of hair growth by surgical implantation of follicular dermal sheath.
                        Horne KA, Jahoda CA.
                        Source

                        Department of Biological Sciences, University of Dundee, Scotland.
                        Abstract

                        The capacity of lower follicle dermal sheath to restore hair growth was tested by removing the lower halves of follicles, and then immediately implanting material containing dermal sheath cells from these bases, into the remaining upper epidermal follicle cavity. Over 60% of recipient follicles produced stout emergent vibrissa fibres and some operations resulted in multiple hair production from a single follicle. Histological examination revealed new dermal papillae within large bulb structures which were sited below the level of amputation--a feature that indicated that the new dermal papilla was derived from implanted material. For many follicles, the failure to produce emergent fibres could be accounted for after histological examination. These results provide clear evidence that lower follicle dermal sheath cells are capable of replacing those of the dermal papilla and it shows that they can do so in the context of the upper follicle. However, because elements of lower follicle epidermis were present in the implant material, the interactive sequence of events cannot be established. Dermal sheath cells have immense potential for papilla cell replacement: questions remain as to whether the distinction between sheath and papilla cells is one of context, or whether the transition requires specific external influences.



                        Tonight I will post more, take care guys

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                        • greatjob!
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 909

                          Originally posted by veca
                          I'll tell you one more thing ... do not ever ask me again if I was his spokesman, representative, surrogate, double, employee, attorney, etc. No, I have no financial interest!
                          Well since I'm the only one who asked this of you, I assume you are directing this at me. I never questioned whether or not you have a financial interest, so it's interesting that you would get so defensive and bring this up. I was only asking if you represent Dr. Nigam since as soon as he left you began posting on his behalf and I wanted to know if you were representing Dr. Nigam in an official manner on tbt much like other clinic representatives do such as Jotronic, MattJ ect. That's all.

                          And please can you and Dr. Nigam stop playing the role of the victim on the forum. People talk bad about Dr. Nigam because he came on this forum over a year ago making claims that he would turn a NW6 into a NW1 or whatever, and then over the course of the year the only photographic evidence he produced to back up those amazing claims were Photoshopped pictures.

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                          • didi
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1360

                            Originally posted by veca
                            Your problem is that you know a little about regenerative medicine. And that's ok, I'm not an expert, but you have to read some things that you would easily understand what Dr. Nigam trying to achieve
                            That's exactly right I know nothing on a subject of regen medicene but I know how to call someone on BS

                            Unfortunately dr nigam dnt know much about it either, all he does is experimenting on customers who pay him for playing a role of guinea pig, very dangerous if you think about it

                            You even sound like dr nigam, always promising and defending indefensible


                            imho dr nigam shouldn't have even started posting on boards without solid evidence, he made a fool of himself.

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                            • UK_
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 2691

                              This is not going to end happily.

                              There's just too much strange behaviour going on here.

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                              • bananana
                                Inactive
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 524

                                Ok didi and others - you've proved your point.
                                We all know the story.

                                For how long are you planning on repeating that? Why dont we wait for some concrete news and then comment? Whats the point of CONSTANTLY repeating "nigam this, nigam that, photoshop, false this, false that..."

                                It's really not productive in any way, further it just made Nigam not post here anymore.

                                Guys, WE ALL HEARD WHAT YOU THINK. 100 TIMES.

                                As I said 10000 times before, I log in here once a week to see the NEWS, all I get are pages and pages of mindless discussions about what is each members opinion on nigams. Mindless.

                                He could be Adolf Hitler himself, but I'm interested only in the cure, nothing else matters, and Nigam is clearly WORKING and TRYING like no other doc.

                                So give it a break already.

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