Dermarolling Community Trial

[Thinning87]

Well we have already agreed that we need a 2.5mm or a 3.0mm and do it very aggressively, do you honk that would be deep enough? Also, would you think that we should apply it minutes after that mutilation, or wait a few hours when the growth factors made their way to the wound.

The journals don't say that sperm has gfg-9, but that it induces it, maybe it can go deep enough and then induce the gfg-9. Would you say applying it with lipogaine is a bad idea? I mean it could kill some stuff needed to work its magic, would you say not?

It's FGF9 dude not GFG9

[Koga]

Seriously.. Are guys really rubbing semen on their heads to grow hair?? No wonder hair keeps sprouting on my gf's face...lol

[DesperateOne]

It's FGF9 dude not GFG9

Thanks, usually type on my phone, so I tend to dismiss things

[fred970]

I reported this thread, this is going too far. Are you really suggesting people to butcher their scalp and then put sperm on it?

I have a feeling this is going to end up like cetirizine.

[hellouser]

Well we have already agreed that we need a 2.5mm or a 3.0mm and do it very aggressively, do you honk that would be deep enough? Also, would you think that we should apply it minutes after that mutilation, or wait a few hours when the growth factors made their way to the wound.

The journals don't say that sperm has gfg-9, but that it induces it, maybe it can go deep enough and then induce the gfg-9. Would you say applying it with lipogaine is a bad idea? I mean it could kill some stuff needed to work its magic, would you say not?

I really don't know, if ejaculated sperm doesn't contain FGF-9 then I wouldn't bother. I only saw bits of info where FGF-9 was induced when sperm was developed.

Before any of you are doing anything with your own scalp and semen, you'd need to find out what the exact properties of it; does it contain FGF-9 or not and what else that may pose any potential risks. Though, to be realistic, many women and gay men swallow it during sex without any side effects, that should give us a hint as to its safety and thats taking in someone elses fluids. Its pretty much impossible to infect yourself so the chances of anything happen with your own are even slimmer than someone else taking yours.

Interesting ideas seeing how the makeup of semen could have benefits, I mean, that is half of the very beginnings of the human form. I think we're veering off course though from this thread's purpose. Further talk should be taken to a new thread.

[Thinning87]

Don't freak out all at once because you read the word "sperm"

[DesperateOne]

I reported this thread, this is going too far. Are you really suggesting people to butcher their scalp and then put sperm on it?

I have a feeling this is going to end up like cetirizine.

Where in the world are we suggesting this. We are just saying what our options might be, and if it works then you will do it yourself I bet. I don't know why people are so negative about experimentation, there is no way we can do better than scientist, all we have is trials. Over the years we have gone through wild goose chases but if we hadn't, we would have to try all those things out eventually. So if you're against that, then that means you're just waiting for a company cure, so what are you even doing here. No one is forcing you to do ANYTHING including coming here.

[chimera]

I reported this thread, this is going too far. Are you really suggesting people to butcher their scalp and then put sperm on it?

I have a feeling this is going to end up like cetirizine.

Yeah, I have suggested that applying semen in your head my be helpful. Now, just let me ask you one single question?, do you know why? I mean, do you know the mechanism behid it?...

[chimera]

I really don't know, if ejaculated sperm doesn't contain FGF-9 then I wouldn't bother. I only saw bits of info where FGF-9 was induced when sperm was developed.

I did not knew about fgf9. But apparently, spermidine is a hair growth stimulator, and also, human semen has a moderate quantity of PGE2.

[hellouser]

I did not knew about fgf9. But apparently, spermidine is a hair growth stimulator, and also, human semen has a moderate quantity of PGE2.

Yes, but semen certainly has other properties that may be detrimental. I know the substance isn't foreign, but... I'd rather ask some scientist. Not anyone like Cotsarelis though, he's got too much at stake with Follica. Someone independent and removed from the hair loss world.

I think we need some research first before doing anything wild.

[DesperateOne]

I did not knew about fgf9. But apparently, spermidine is a hair growth stimulator, and also, human semen has a moderate quantity of PGE2.

Where did you read it was a hair growth stimulator? I know that the logic behind my reading is that it does have pge2. I guess that why they say that joke, that you have hair in your hands because you were jacking off lol

[chimera]

I reported this thread, this is going too far. Are you really suggesting people to butcher their scalp and then put sperm on it?

I have a feeling this is going to end up like cetirizine.

Also, why do you care if we apply semen in our heads. Where's the problem?, semen is not dangerous, not at all. Did not you got boobs for playing with finasteride before?, why don't you go and report all those threads of crazy people playing with their hormones first?, now that's really dangerous.

[chimera]

Where did you read it was a hair growth stimulator? I know that the logic behind my reading is that it does have pge2. I guess that why they say that joke, that you have hair in your hands because you were jacking off lol

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0022564

[hellouser]

As mentioned, the semen hypothesis should be taken to another thread. If its in serious tone, it won't be taken down. Dont worry about Fred reporting it. Lets stay on track with dermarolling/wounding.

[fred970]

Also, why do you care if we apply semen in our heads. Where's the problem?, semen is not dangerous, not at all. Did not you got boobs for playing with finasteride before?, why don't you go and report all those threads of crazy people playing with their hormones first?, now that's really dangerous.

I've never taken finasteride. I got boobs because of psychiatric medication. Dermatologists usually don't prescribe finasteride for hair loss here in Belgium.

Semen is not dangerous, but I would appreciate if young hair loss sufferers could keep their dignity. Using semen to grow hair, why didn't anyone think of that before?! Jeez (no pun intended)...