Dermarolling Community Trial

[Chromeo]

I just go my CET today, how many times did you apply it? Did you follow the protocol the Germans put? Dissolve in water and and remove the sluge? And what ratio, I plan to blend it in lipogaine since it already has some good vehicles.

Yep, I used 60 tabs in 60ml of water. I put the tabs in an old minox container & filled it with water, left it for a day to dissolve. Some were removing the filler but I just let it settle at the bottom & drew solution off the top with the dropper.

[baldee]

4 weeks of dermarolling. No new hair sprouting. Not even peach fuzz. Then again nothing works for me.

Dermarolling is painful... but not as painful as loosing your hair.

[Chromeo]

4 weeks of dermarolling. No new hair sprouting. Not even peach fuzz. Then again nothing works for me.

Dermarolling is painful... but not as painful as loosing your hair.

How are you measuring it, are you taking macro photographs or just looking in the mirror? Also, how long is your hair (if you have any) and which length needles are you using? You sound like quite an unfortunate case.

You're damn right it's painful...but I'm actually looking forward to my 6th week of rolling tonight. Not looking forward to the pain, of course...but eager to make more progress. Good luck guys and gals.

[the_dude78]

4 weeks of dermarolling. No new hair sprouting. Not even peach fuzz. Then again nothing works for me.

Dermarolling is painful... but not as painful as loosing your hair.

It's too early to say anything after only 4 weeks.

From the study:
"Initiation of new hair growth was noticeable by around 6 weeks"

This doesn't necessarily mean that everybody will see new hair growth after only 6 weeks. And also "initiation of new hair growth", I'm guessing you'd have to look very carefully before you see anything at all after just 6 weeks.

People need to give this time and not lose hope just because nothing happens after a month. It takes time to grow hair!

[DesperateOne]

It's too early to say anything after only 4 weeks.

From the study:
"Initiation of new hair growth was noticeable by around 6 weeks"

This doesn't necessarily mean that everybody will see new hair growth after only 6 weeks. And also "initiation of new hair growth", I'm guessing you'd have to look very carefully before you see anything at all after just 6 weeks.

People need to give this time and not lose hope just because nothing happens after a month. It takes time to grow hair!

I think you're forgetting the fact that people are desperate, as well they should be. This damn curse ruins lifes, such a stupid desease really, you lose hair in a pattern like form wow.

I think we should see results pretty soon because its about wounding and it should grow relatively quick once the wound is healed.

[Hal0]

Hi,

I will add Lithioderm 8 % (http://www.labcatal.com/index.php?op...ogie&Itemid=13) to my regimen.

But i need your opinion :

Should I apply this gel every morning / evening (like the instruction for use say )

or

Apply this before (or after) my dermarolling session?




PS: Sorry for my bad grammar =)

[the_dude78]

I think you're forgetting the fact that people are desperate, as well they should be. This damn curse ruins lifes, such a stupid desease really, you lose hair in a pattern like form wow.

I think we should see results pretty soon because its about wounding and it should grow relatively quick once the wound is healed.

I'm not forgetting that people are desperate. It's very obvious. But still, try to have patience, there is no reason why we should see results earlier than the 6 weeks if we are, more or less, following the same steps as in the study. It just seems like people are getting really disappointed when nothing has happened after a few weeks, just do your rolling and don't think too much about it for the next 6-12 weeks. Easier said than done, I know, and we all really, really want this to work, but it'll save you from a lot of negative thoughts and stress if you can stop looking for new hairs every time you look in the mirror

[hellouser]

Hi,

I will add Lithioderm 8 % (http://www.labcatal.com/index.php?op...ogie&Itemid=13) to my regimen.

But i need your opinion :

Should I apply this gel every morning / evening (like the instruction for use say )

or

Apply this before (or after) my dermarolling session?




PS: Sorry for my bad grammar =)

If youre going to try to add lithium, I highly recommend you look into and read in full Follica's patent and their method of application for wounding + regrowth. Essentially, they spilled the beans. Lithium has been tried years ago with dermarolling but it failed. I'd advise against using it without first read this:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=145781&postcount=61

It should be added, but whats needed is knowledge of when and how its applied.

[thinningTooSoon]

Had my 2nd session tonight, seemed to be much easier than the 1st, so don't be put off if you found it painful 1st time round people

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

guys anybody else saw regrowth ? there is a guy on *** similar forum posted some good regrowth pics..

i really dont want to go sleep again knowing we dont see regrowth,,,

wish we get it..

goodnight.......

[DesperateOne]

guys anybody else saw regrowth ? there is a guy on *** similar forum posted some good regrowth pics..

i really dont want to go sleep again knowing we dont see regrowth,,,

wish we get it..

goodnight.......

Squeegee is getting some regrowth on ***. We also found that we can induce gfg-9 by applying sperm to it, since it has pge2 and that in turn induces gfg-9. Once I grow my hair back, I will have to charge woman to jizz on their head

[hellouser]

Squeegee is getting some regrowth on ***. We also found that we can induce gfg-9 by applying sperm to it, since it has pge2 and that in turn induces gfg-9. Once I grow my hair back, I will have to charge woman to jizz on their head

I keep seeing comments about guys using their sperm as a topical.... I dont know anymore if this is a joke anymore or not. I just did a quick search in Google for 'FGF-9 sperm' and there are results popping up for the two... which begs the question:

Is anyone REALLY masturbating and applying their sperm as a topical solution in some kind of vehicle?

[DesperateOne]

I keep seeing comments about guys using their sperm as a topical.... I dont know anymore if this is a joke anymore or not. I just did a quick search in Google for 'FGF-9 sperm' and there are results popping up for the two... which begs the question:

Is anyone REALLY masturbating and applying their sperm as a topical solution in some kind of vehicle?

Yes it's true, there is medical journals that suggest this. I tried it today for the first time, I mixed it with lipogaine so it can reach the follicle. To tell you the truth, I don't really care anymore, if it takes this and a 3mm, then so be it.

[hellouser]

Yes it's true, there is medical journals that suggest this. I tried it today for the first time, I mixed it with lipogaine so it can reach the follicle. To tell you the truth, I don't really care anymore, if it takes this and a 3mm, then so be it.

I'm not grossed out by my own baby batter (its mine, why would I be?), so I'd have no problem with it either, but the whole concept sounds so...... uh... well, you know.

However, FGF-9 has a molecular weight of 23,000 dalton. Human skin only allowes about 500 dalton to pass through. Microneedling is supposed to allow up to around 10,000;

http://dermapen.com/micro-needling-drug-delivery/

If you guys really are doing it, then even dermarolling won't help. You'd need to basically strip away skin substantially, a large and wide wound would have to be there in order for FGF-9 to work its magic. Dermabrasion could be it. Another member posted a biopsy punch device on eBay as well, that could work.

[DesperateOne]

I'm not grossed out by my own baby batter (its mine, why would I be?), so I'd have no problem with it either, but the whole concept sounds so...... uh... well, you know.

However, FGF-9 has a molecular weight of 23,000 dalton. Human skin only allowes about 500 dalton to pass through. Microneedling is supposed to allow up to around 10,000;

http://dermapen.com/micro-needling-drug-delivery/

If you guys really are doing it, then even dermarolling won't help. You'd need to basically strip away skin substantially, a large and wide wound would have to be there in order for FGF-9 to work its magic. Dermabrasion could be it. Another member posted a biopsy punch device on eBay as well, that could work.

Well we have already agreed that we need a 2.5mm or a 3.0mm and do it very aggressively, do you honk that would be deep enough? Also, would you think that we should apply it minutes after that mutilation, or wait a few hours when the growth factors made their way to the wound.

The journals don't say that sperm has gfg-9, but that it induces it, maybe it can go deep enough and then induce the gfg-9. Would you say applying it with lipogaine is a bad idea? I mean it could kill some stuff needed to work its magic, would you say not?