Dermarolling Community Trial

[UK Boy]

by the way anyone still on trx2 which is another con trick and if anyone wants to know my regrime its miconazol nitrate which i have some already mixed with emu oil and i have started putting neat 2% micon on scalp before i apply minoxidil that has prop glycol in and is really cheap to buy.
Already had a hairmax laser 9 lux which i got cheap off ebay but i think i need a more powerful laser like omg site states for hair loss.
I also make my own benonite clay with av mix and some tea tree oil which i have been a bit lazy to use lately.
Have i had any regrowth well i have buzzed my hair again to see if this new regrime can do anything and i now have zero hair loss in drain and i forgot im on dutasteride 0.5mg a day as propecia did nothing for me,and also biotin and silica.
I got all this stuff cheaper than buying ru from kane or mpb treatments and hope i can get success.
I have at my age come to learn not to get excited with these companies saying they have a product in the pipeline and then it comes to nothing giving false hope to us.

Ummm, ok, so you shaved your head to see if your regime was working and since you shaved your head you now have zero hair loss in the drain. I'm not saying your regime isn't working - I mean you're on Dut so I'm sure it's doing something but do you not think that one of the biggest reasons that you're seeing "zero" hair loss in the drain now is cos the buzzed hairs are so short that they're going straight down without getting caught the drain? I always have to question guys who talk about "zero" hair loss - even kids and women shed some hairs each day - it's part of the natural hair growth cycle.

[534623]

I completely agree with you but this is the problem - as I browse forums there are as many different treatment 'regimes' as there are hair loss sufferers. Unless everybody with a treatment 'regime' follows a set procedure of documenting what they are doing & using and the results we will never get a true picture of what helps, what doesn't and how good/bad the results are.

Hopefully you could still read my answer/post - before it got deleted.

Anyway, now you should know definitely what I was talking about - you know, "TALK" and "blah blah" ...

[Jazz1]

Same here StayThick, I will also start CB once its available at Iron Dragon as a pre mixed ready form to be used right away. Its very hard to get alcohol in the Middle East. I will use CB and Minox together once a day before bedtime and swallow one capsule of Keratene Alphactive Retard along the way. Im so thankful that there is an intelligent member like Hellouser in this golden forum :-)

When you think iron dragon will have it?

[HARIRI]

When you think iron dragon will have it?

In their homepage, they mentioned this:-

~PRE SALE~

Cortexolone 17 alpha propionate

ETA: approximately 1 week

See description under: "Selective Anti-Androgen

[Conpecia]

Did my second round of rolling and it was quite a bit more painful than the first. Not sure why. Bastards at amazon botched my minox supply so tomorrow I might have to go buy it at a store. Hate doing that.

Made sure there was redness and some bleeding this time. Anyone noticing anything who's been it for 3-4 weeks?

[JJacobs152]

Nobody posting results with the following combo:

roller + minox + nizoral + fin?

I'd like to be a part of this group, but having a study where n = 1 doesn't really mean much.

[deuce]

So everyone is/was super excited about this. Anyone seeing any results?

[horte]

Has anyone shed off dermarolling or is that just me... Plus I had to use min on days I roll because if I skip a day I lose to many damn hairs.

[Baby John]

Horte,

You wait 24 hours to apply minox to reduce the risk of increased systemic absorbtion.

[HARIRI]

Has anyone shed off dermarolling or is that just me... Plus I had to use min on days I roll because if I skip a day I lose to many damn hairs.

I tried the 1.5mm and the other day I threw it in the trash bin. I cant handle it at all. Its torturing me and felt stupid, I decided to stick with the 0.5mm scalp roller, at least it will help absorption, also Nanogen company found in their trial that 0.5mm roller does have more benefits:-

The Scalproller has 4 innovative modes of action to enhance any hair treatment regimen:

1. Increases Topical Treatment Absorption

Scalproller pre-treatment has been shown to increase absorption of topical treatments by 5 times or more. With Scalproller pre-treatment, lower 2% concentrations of a topical treatment solution will give concentrations in the scalp higher than when using 5% solutions on untreated skin. Similarly, 5% solutions will produce higher concentrations in the scalp than 12.5% solutions or suspensions used on untreated skin. Frontal scalp areas are notoriously difficult to treat topically, most probably due to lack of absorption. Therefore topical treatments are only really effective in treating vertex hair loss. Using Nanogen's Scalproller can dramatically increase absorption of topical treatments in these regions, opening up new potential areas for topical treatments to act on.

2. Heals Donor Scars

Hair transplant surgery commonly leaves scars in the donor region; Nanogen's Scalproller has been proven to fade and reduce the appearance of these scars by breaking up scar tissue structures and formations. Plus there is evidence in animal models to show that new hair may grow to conceal the donor area after Scalproller treatment.

3. Activates PRP Treatment

Platelet Rich Plasma or PRP therapy is a cutting edge development in hair loss treatment. PRP has been shown to produce thicker transplanted hair growth, and possibly even thicken non-transplanted hair. In PRP therapy, the platelet and growth factor rich fraction of the patient's blood is re-injected into them, and then growth is activated by repeated needle insertion. Single needle insertion is irregular, time consuming and often painful. Scalproller treatment produces much more reliable, regular needle insertions in less time, and with less pain.

4. Encourages New Hair Growth

The latest research by Intercytex, performed with Dr. Bessam Farjo as principal investigator, has shown that patients receiving superficial injections and controlled wounding grow new hair, which may solely be a result of the controlled skin wounding itself. This surprising result is correlated by the pioneering work published by Dr. George Cotsarelis of Pennsylvania University, who found that stimulation of the Wnt protein by wounding leads to hair regeneration. Wounding by microneedles would potentially start this Wnt protein mediated growth stimulation, and prevent synthesis of TGF-β2, a protein known to induce hair loss.

Scalproller treatment increases topical treatment penetration and may independently promote new hair growth.

[Baby John]

Also note:

Wounding that produces the signaling that may cause hair growth may also increase the incidence of basal cell carcinoma. See the study Hellouser posted earlier in this thread.

[horte]

Wouldn't increased systemic absorption be good tho for Mindoxil?

[hellouser]

Wouldn't increased systemic absorption be good tho for Mindoxil?

Not systemic, unless you want heart problems.

[Baby John]

horte,

Minox is a medication used to treat hypertension. It's taken orally in this case to provide a systemic effect and there are risks that accompany this particular use for each individual.

When used topically for the purpose of hair regrowth/retention, efficacy should be enhanced when it stays where desired, which is at the follicle, and the risks that go along with systemic use should be reduced or possibly eliminated.

[Hicks]

Something interesting: I foam roll before my workouts at the gym so why not Ball Roll your head? In a nut shell foam rolling is used to break up tissue and increase blood circulation. If you ask 10 different people you will get 7 different answers. Anyway. I ball rolled my head (if you do it right it hurt like a mother), jumped in the shower, then dermarolled 1.5mm. I can say without a doubt I bleed like a gut deer. I know the purpose is to wound NOT bleed out. Point being it seem ball rolling does increase blood circulation or blood to the area. Blood is key for repairing any wound. Just something to think about.