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  • Tracy C
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 3083

    Originally posted by doke
    i forgot to add i also use some spiro cream applied to scalp...
    A male should not touch Spiro in any form.

    Don't believe everything you see on Youtube.

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    • brunobald
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 169

      Just thinking of typical donor regeneration in a HT patient. It is basicly deep wounding or an extreme case of derma rolling. Dr cole reports success rates of up to 70% and an average of around 50%. Imagine if 1 in 2 of the holes you make with your dermaroller sprouted hair! Truth is that is not happening so how can we replicated donor regen without actually touching our donor areas. Well a fue punch makes a much deeper and bigger diameter hole, some theorys state the wound needs to be self supporting and not close in on in itself. This forces the cells into a decision of wether to fill the void with hair or skin cells. The other ingredient missing used in donor regen is acell. Acell is made from pig? Stomach stem cells? Its widely used in the treatment of burns. Maybe something to research is hair growth in burns victims using acell for repairs.

      In summery my idea is to use current donor regen methods to attempt to regen the mpb area. If this worked I would propose to modifiy a fue robot to perform the op up until the hair line. This would deskill the process and hopefully make it available to all.

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      • DesperateOne
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 289

        Originally posted by Tracy C
        Are you for real?

        Miconozole is in the same family of drugs as Ketoconazole and yes it can be helpful in treating hair loss - but not as helpful as Ketoconazole.

        Don't believe everything to see on Youtube, especially when it comes to treating hair loss.
        God dammit, I already ordered Miconozone online because of all the hype on youtube. At least it was relatively cheap, but I guess Ketoconazole would of been better.

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        • Tracy C
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 3083

          Originally posted by DesperateOne
          I already ordered Miconozone online because of all the hype on youtube.
          The vast majority of the "information" available on Youtube about hair loss is complete garbage. Just as the vast majority of the "information" available on this subject throughout the internet as a whole is garbage. I have yet to see anything from anyone other than a hair restoration doctor that had any real value at all.

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          • DesperateOne
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 289

            Originally posted by Tracy C
            The vast majority of the "information" available on Youtube about hair loss is complete garbage. Just as the vast majority of the "information" available on this subject throughout the internet as a whole is garbage. I have yet to see anything from anyone other than a hair restoration doctor that had any real value at all.
            So when it arrives do you recommend that I should just dump it or should I try it out at least.

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            • Tracy C
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 3083

              Why would I suggest dumping it?

              I suggest trying to validate the "information" you find. Most guys and gals in hair loss forums are not very good at that.

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              • HARIRI
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 467

                Originally posted by Tracy C
                A male should not touch Spiro in any form.

                Don't believe everything you see on Youtube.
                I agree on that, when I used to be a regular customer with Dr. Lee and used to order ******* 5%. He advised me to upgrade it to 15% and use it once a day for better efficiency. But when I asked him about adding Spiro to my regime, he told me straight away to stay away from it and that it is being recommended to female customers only. So what Tracy C mentioned about Spiro makes sense.

                I believe CB 03 01 is the BEST thing to be added to the Minox daily Regime. They are selling it at the kane shop and could be mixed by many vehicles, the most common one ethanol/PG.

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                • Tracy C
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 3083

                  Originally posted by HARIRI
                  I believe CB 03 01 is the BEST...
                  On what grounds do you base this belief? On more garbage you found on the internet? Yet another pilot study? Yet more worthless "testimonials" from young guys on the internet?

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                  • chimera
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 171

                    Originally posted by Tracy C
                    On what grounds do you base this belief? On more garbage you found on the internet? Yet another pilot study? Yet more worthless "testimonials" from young guys on the internet?
                    Wow, you're a very arrogant person, yet, event though you tend to say you are always right, most of the time you open your mouth you are wrong. You're not different than all these kids, not at all.

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                    • Chromeo
                      Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 86

                      YouTube is notoriously bad for hairloss advice. It's basically full of bullsh*t.

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                      • StayThick
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 624

                        Originally posted by chimera
                        Wow, you're a very arrogant person, yet, event though you tend to say you are always right, most of the time you open your mouth you are wrong. You're not different than all these kids, not at all.
                        I actually think she is right on this. We don't know the effect of CB yet, as it is unproven and people still can't figure out the proper vehicle. It's all wish washy at the moment.

                        CB could end up being all hype and no substance, especially without the correct vehicle, so Tracy is not 100% off base with her comment.

                        Fortunately, we have extremely helpful forum members on here that are currently trying various vehicles and testing it out. Only time will tell.

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          Originally posted by StayThick
                          I actually think she is right on this. We don't know the effect of CB yet, as it is unproven and people still can't figure out the proper vehicle. It's all wish washy at the moment.

                          CB could end up being all hype and no substance, especially without the correct vehicle, so Tracy is not 100% off base with her comment.

                          Fortunately, we have extremely helpful forum members on here that are currently trying various vehicles and testing it out. Only time will tell.
                          A member on another forum got fantastic results on CB with a 50/50 ethanol/PG mix. And it wasn't bullshit evidence, as he mentioned that he got the same results using Finasteride (got off Fin, lost all gone, got on CB and regained everything that was lost). I won't name names or post pics as theyre part of the private forums.

                          So CB, at least from some sources, and at least in ethanol/PG vehicle, is definitely not 'wishy washy'

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                          • StayThick
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 624

                            Originally posted by hellouser
                            A member on another forum got fantastic results on CB with a 50/50 ethanol/PG mix. And it wasn't bullshit evidence, as he mentioned that he got the same results using Finasteride (got off Fin, lost all gone, got on CB and regained everything that was lost). I won't name names or post pics as theyre part of the private forums.

                            So CB, at least from some sources, and at least in ethanol/PG vehicle, is definitely not 'wishy washy'
                            Hellouser: We are on the same team bro. But evidence from some single random dude on another forum means absolutely SQUAT to me and doesn't prove ANYTHING. Was the individual utilizing other treatments at the same time? What evidence did he provide that proved CB was reason he regained his post FIN lost hair?

                            Only way for me to find out is to try it myself, which I plan on doing. There are too many variables for me to place confidence on an experimental treatment because you said "1 guy" on another forum stated results.

                            I know 5 people on this forum that got results from Neogenic, come on dude, seriously?...it's all wishy washy at this point. FACT. I hope it pans out though.

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              Originally posted by StayThick
                              Hellouser: We are on the same team bro. But evidence from some single random dude on another forum means absolutely SQUAT to me and doesn't prove ANYTHING. Was the individual utilizing other treatments at the same time? What evidence did he provide that proved CB was reason he regained his post FIN lost hair?

                              Only way for me to find out is to try it myself, which I plan on doing. There are too many variables for me to place confidence on an experimental treatment because you said "1 guy" on another forum stated results.

                              I know 5 people on this forum that got results from Neogenic, come on dude, seriously?...it's all wishy washy at this point. FACT. I hope it pans out though.
                              You'd have to see the photos and log. The increase in density was incredible. But, you can either take my word for it or dismiss my input, I really don't care. Those of you throwing CB under the bus prematurely can go ahead and do so, its not going to affect my continued treatment with CB. While I've made great strides with RU, I lost them equally once getting off. When (less likely if though) I make progress with CB, you'll know when I update my log. But then, I'll probably be the first guy on BTT to do so, and with that said, you can use the same argument as you just did now against my case: I'm just one guy that got a result from CB, come on dude, seriously? Or will all of you take my case should it be successful as fact or 'one case isn't good enough' ? How many people will it take for you guys to jump on the CB train? Do realize that the longer you wait, the more hair youre going to lose as AGA is typically progressive. If youre going to wait for it to be released from Cosmo, you might as well become an advocate/activist for Replicel/Histogen as thats more or less *probably* going to be released around the same time. I hope not though, and I seriously hope both companies can prove us wrong because the wait times for a superior treatment to Finasteride are disgusting and EVERYONE is to blame; the biotech companies, the FDA, the researchers, the media, you, me and especially the hair loss community for being SO FVCKING COMPLACENT.

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                              • Tracy C
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 3083

                                Originally posted by chimera
                                Wow, you're a very arrogant person.
                                Actually I am - and for darn good reason. I know how to tell the difference between good information and garbage.

                                I do not claim to be always right all the time but I am not wrong everytime I open my mouth. If you think I am, your are simply choosing to believe garbage information. I know better than that. You obviously do not.

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