So how close are we to a new 'cure'

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  • KO1
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    Lauster has no method. He has been talking about clinical trials for years!

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by KO1
    Also what is going to come out in the future? Lauster? Oh wait. Even future treatments will work best in conjuction with finasteride.
    LMAO! Completely false. Lauster's method does not rely on anything.

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  • KO1
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    Originally posted by cichlidfort
    There are so many grey areas in your argument it's hilarious. What are you basing your facts off of? Biased studies? Men on these forums? Yourself? Many men have had sides from the drug and I am sure there are a plethora of unreported cases. There are LAWSUITS against the drug because of the damage it's caused men! Stop being an ignorant fool and understand that this drug is not SAFE for everyone! Christ.... Do you honestly think every man is going to report negative side effects? I am not saying Fin doesn't do it's job but it is stone age in comparison to what's going to be coming out in the future.
    Still didn't answer my question. If DHT is so crucial for all these things.

    Why don't the vast majority of people suffer these sides? So are you suggesting that in a double blinded study wiht 5% incidence of sides, 95% of people are choosing not to report them? If so, on what basis?

    Problem is your argument totally starts to fall apart when you actually you know, think about it. So you keep changing the topic.

    Also what is going to come out in the future? Lauster? Oh wait. Even future treatments will work best in conjuction with finasteride.

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  • cichlidfort
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    Originally posted by KO1
    You still have not answered my question, and stop changing the subject. Since you know so much about "DHT and how the body works", why do most people not suffer these sides from high levels of DHT suppression?

    Enlighten me.
    There are so many grey areas in your argument it's hilarious. What are you basing your facts off of? Biased studies? Men on these forums? Yourself? Many men have had sides from the drug and I am sure there are a plethora of unreported cases. There are LAWSUITS against the drug because of the damage it's caused men! Stop being an ignorant fool and understand that this drug is not SAFE for everyone! Christ.... Do you honestly think every man is going to report negative side effects? I am not saying Fin doesn't do it's job but it is stone age in comparison to what's going to be coming out in the future.

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  • KO1
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    Originally posted by Hairismylife
    KO1 is shareholder of FIN, if not a salesman
    Fin has been a poor performer for Merck, so being a shareholder of Fin would not be very profitable....

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  • Hairismylife
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    KO1 is shareholder of FIN, if not a salesman

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  • KO1
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    ^ Not even close to true. Keep dreaming buddy, and when are these exciting treatments coming anyways? Do you know?

    Also, even these new second generation treatments like Replicel, Histogen, and Aderans will work better the more hair you have, which will require finasteride.

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  • DepressedByHairLoss
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    I agree with you, hellouser. Today's treatment are rudimentary, largely ineffective, riddled with downsides, and not nearly enough to treat hair loss. I believe that when superior alternatives come to fruition, many people will look back and realize how "stone age" these current treatments actually are.

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  • KO1
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    It's definitely not as effective as some people believe. It usually slows down crown loss but if it stops your loss you are very lucky
    Statistically most people are above baseline after five years, and in the only 10 year study....well you know what I will say.

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by KO1
    Finasteride is not stone age. I repeat, it is safe and effective and every man should consider it.
    It's definitely not as effective as some people believe. It usually slows down crown loss but if it stops your loss you are very lucky

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  • KO1
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    Conversation ends right here if you actually believe this.
    Finasteride is not stone age. I repeat, it is safe and effective and every man should consider it.

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  • KO1
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    The reason I keep touting finasteride is because watching these HM treatments fail or disappear seems routine at this point. One should never hold off on using current treatments based on hope.

    Also, in many cases, like Histogen, they will work better the more hair you have. Which again leads back to fin.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by KO1
    Finasteride is not stone age.
    Conversation ends right here if you actually believe this.

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  • KO1
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    Finasteride is not stone age. Anyways, there's nothing you or I can do about new treatments unless you have the ability and means to actually finance this work and invest in firms that can bring treatments to market. I don't have millions, many do though. In fact that is how Follica was started, they used Cots' discovery and shopped it around to investors.

    As far I can see, that is the only way. One could also do what Boldy is doing and visiting Nigam with the idea of improving his protocol.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by KO1
    The reason I am asking is because he decided to be a sanctimonious t***t and lecture us on "knowing how the human body works", so let's see his response. I am defending finasteride because it is a great drug that every man who has MPB should consider and rarely gives serious sexual side effects. Even if it is TWENTY years old, it is still enough for many.

    And how exactly am I going to make a "push" for hair multiplication? Kidnap Lauster?
    Even if its enough for many, its not anywhere near enough for many more. Additionally, there are those that can't afford it, don't know about it, are too late to get on it, etc.

    I didn't specifically say make a push for hair multiplication, it should be obvious that I meant to make a push for a superior alternative, not this stone age shit.

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