So how close are we to a new 'cure'

[SOTF]

The majority of your post is a fallacy. Let's discuss more fallacy. Here is my anecdotal report. I have a high sex drive, my muscle mass has never been better, I have zero mental fog and more energy than I've had in my life. All of this while on DUT with almost no serum DHT.

See those scientific studies that show hardly anyone with these side effects you claim? You are not a fan of science. Research the role of DHT in ADULT male bodies. I am doing just fine at the gym with my testosterone. You are a product of hair loss forum broscience.

[cichlidfort]

If you really want to remove doubt, skip finasteride and get on DUT at the first sign of loss. There is a wide range in DHT reduction on fin, which will not stop loss for some men. DUT provides a more stable reduction in DHT. Get on DUT, and WAIT.

When I read posts like yours, I seriously wonder if you even know how DHT plays a role on the human body. For those that say they don't experience sides are a bunch of fools. They might night physically feel them but you can damn right bet that their physiology is 100% altered when DHT is blocked. DHT is the king of male androgens and is about 3-10 times more potent then testosterone. Without sufficient DHT levels, you are not a full man and that is freaking fact. DHT helps with muscle development and furthermore, blocks the enzyme aromatase that converts testosterone into estrogen. That is why you have some men with female breasts when they go on Fin or Dut. It's sad really. The brain relies on sex hormones to function at it's best- DHEA, testosterone, estrogen and DHT. Out of all of those steroid compounds, DHT is still king. Testosterone only has a neural effect for a couple of hours while DHT is 24. DHT also helps with cholesterol. I could go on and on about this. We all know that when significant amount of DHT is blocked, sex drive is lowered and there will be impotence. The men that probably say they didn't notice any difference are probably not the most observant people. Many that say that have been on Fin for 10 years without sides that go off all of a sudden notice a big improvement in quality of life. I wonder why...

Moral of the story, fin and dut are just temporary preventives. It's a sacrifice when you take these drugs and a PERSONAL choice. Some men would rather have great muscle tone/high sex drive with little hair while others go for the cosmetic look. Everyone reacts to hair loss differently. Some men as myself are much better looking than others so it really all depends. Point is, we need a better cure that doesn't **** with our manliness. The end.

[SOTF]

And all of it is wishful thinking. Hope is good but there is nothing definitive about Joe from Staten Island saying X product is going to make it rain. I cringe when I read people afraid to take finasteride or dutasteride. If I knew what I now know as fact, that these medications are the only real hope we have, I would have been on them 5 years ago before I went to a diffuse NW 3. I'd still have my hair, the studies show that as near certainty.

I have recently read a representative of Dr. Cole on these very boards say that his "experience", "seeing" patients tells him finasteride does not work as claimed. That is absolute rubbish and the longer history we have of these drugs show the efficacy is very, very good if you stop getting intertwined in people's fallacies and follow facts.

If you really want to remove doubt, skip finasteride and get on DUT at the first sign of loss. There is a wide range in DHT reduction on fin, which will not stop loss for some men. DUT provides a more stable reduction in DHT. Get on DUT, and WAIT.

[FearTheLoss]

It's not word of God, but I'd say it's a pretty good bet.

Exact quote:

Spencer "I talked with David Hall of Replicel you guys have seen on the show before... they've been working on Replicel since 2003...I believe they're on to a true science, technology that's gonna change peoples lives. It might not happen in 1 year or 2 years, it might not happen in 3 or 4, but it's gonna happen and they're getting closer and closer."

later on:

Spencer: "When I think about all those kids today and these companies that are really working on cures and effective treatments. When you're losing your hair today, you're 21-22, I'm not gonna put my hand on the bible on swear to this. But I can almost guarantee. You guys will not be living your adult lives as hairloss sufferers. There is a good chance that by the time you're in your 30's, this will all be over... you will be able to solve this in your young lives"

later on in talk with Joe from Staten Island.

"Replicel is going to make it happen for all of us."

[Pentarou]

Even Spencer believes hair loss will be cured in the next 10 years or less.

Seriously, does he? I've never listened to his show, I'll admit now.

[sausage]

I don't have a great knowledge of the current news on potential new hair loss treatments....

Aren't Gho, Nigam, and Histogen all working on the same or very similar injectable 'cure'? So far with apparently some sort of positive result.....

you would like to think that one of them will refine their own method enough to come up with something sooner or later.......hopefully sooner.

[cichlidfort]

What do DHT sensitive hair cells "lack" that DHT immune hair cells have?

[yan]

I personally would consider cb 03 01 a potential cure. If it stops MPB from progressing then in my opinion that is a form of a cure.

So true... At least for the <NW3 guys and if really side effect free. Lets not forget that topical steroids can cause steroid atrophy and shit... :/

[burtandernie]

I personally would consider cb 03 01 a potential cure. If it stops MPB from progressing then in my opinion that is a form of a cure.

[bigentries]

No, I just choose to be positive. Regardless of the outcome, I will be less stressed out. I have enough stress in my life.

One thing is to be positive, and other is being naively positive

I consider myself positive as I believe the last generation of baldies has already been born.

But you choose to believe the cure is coming "soon" even when all the evidence is against that.

Follica and their FGf9 finding has not been completely been understood, and their neogenesis is only speculation, we don't know how much have they've been able to grow, and the quality of the hair.

If we want a cosmetic improvement, we need a cure that grows a lot of thick hair, not a little amount of vellus

[FearTheLoss]

Even Spencer believes hair loss will be cured in the next 10 years or less.

[BoSox]

No, I just choose to be positive. Regardless of the outcome, I will be less stressed out. I have enough stress in my life.

[walrus]

What happened to PGD 2 treatments already being in trials so in a few years we will have a cure?

Well that was only one year ago now. They have no obligation to keep us updated.

[Pentarou]

Do you have inside info or it is just a guess from your part?

Naive optimism most likely.

[Vox]

Don't forget Follica identified the growth factor as well, Fgf9. They are able to grow new hair (neogensis). Forget about maintaining or any of that bs, this will cure baldness as we know it. Just don't let all these pessimistic people on this forum distract you. It's going to happen soon, not exactly sure when, but soon. Just relax until its on the market.

Do you have inside info or it is just a guess from your part?