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  • KO1
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    You failed in debates in grade school, didn't you? Not only that, but either you twist peoples words to support your own agenda or your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking. Whatever the case may be, every reply you've made had at a false statement, and this one is no different.

    Like the others have said, this is about cutting edge. Take your finasteride agenda, cram it up your ass and get the fvck out of here.
    No, I was not on the debate team, I played soccer, and my reading comprehension is great. I will continue promoting and defending finasteride, and it is not my problem you're a dumbass who licks Roland Lauster.

    cichlidfort made a dumb point about DHT, and once questioned turns into a crying heap. You made a stupid point about Lauster's brilliant cutting edge treatment, which does not exist, and you're reduced to whining.

    So feel free to cram it up Roland Lauster and tell me if you grow any hair. That would be cutting edge!

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  • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
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    if you get fin from your ass do you get sides? lol

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by KO1
    And what do you contribute besides your dumb posts crying about fin? You don't know anything about the drug, you dont believe in clinical trial data, you cry and whine, and you think you are taken seriously?



    A guy says he's cured hair loss 3 years ago, claims he's going to conduct clinical trials, but we hear nothing about him since. And that's your evidence for "new treatments are coming so we shouldn't take fin". LMAO.

    Hey guys....I cured hair loss too. I'm in talks with pharma firms for trials. Stay tuned!
    You failed in debates in grade school, didn't you? Not only that, but either you twist peoples words to support your own agenda or your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking. Whatever the case may be, every reply you've made had at a false statement, and this one is no different.

    Like the others have said, this is about cutting edge. Take your finasteride agenda, cram it up your ass and get the fvck out of here.

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  • KO1
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    Originally posted by cichlidfort
    This is why you are not taken seriously. You and loud mouth greatjob! can go use it as lube for each other. The end.
    And what do you contribute besides your dumb posts crying about fin? You don't know anything about the drug, you dont believe in clinical trial data, you cry and whine, and you think you are taken seriously?

    Originally posted by hellouser
    Nobody said he was. Its been clear that he said that 'plans were underway' in 2010, and thats about as much as you could possibly know.
    A guy says he's cured hair loss 3 years ago, claims he's going to conduct clinical trials, but we hear nothing about him since. And that's your evidence for "new treatments are coming so we shouldn't take fin". LMAO.

    Hey guys....I cured hair loss too. I'm in talks with pharma firms for trials. Stay tuned!

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by KO1
    There is no evidence Lauster is in clinical trials of any sort for MPB. Feel free to show me otherwise.
    Nobody said he was. Its been clear that he said that 'plans were underway' in 2010, and thats about as much as you could possibly know.

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  • cichlidfort
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    Originally posted by KO1
    Finasteride is not stone age. I repeat, it is safe and effective and every man should consider it.

    This is why you are not taken seriously. You and loud mouth greatjob! can go use it as lube for each other. The end.

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  • KO1
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    I thought you had inside info of what Lauster has been saying since 2010? Do YOU know what phase of clinical trials Lauster is in?
    There is no evidence Lauster is in clinical trials of any sort for MPB. Feel free to show me otherwise.

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  • Arashi
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    Regardless, please stop discussing Fin in the cutting edge/future treatments sections for Christ's sake. Nobody here is interested in that poison.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by KO1
    Which phase of clinical trials is Lauster in? Tsuji is a long way away from clinical trials of any kind, which he himself has stated.

    Replicel will work better on extant hair that is miniaturized, so you will want to keep the most you can.
    I thought you had inside info of what Lauster has been saying since 2010? Do YOU know what phase of clinical trials Lauster is in?

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  • KO1
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    Originally posted by greatjob!
    So peer reviewed studies are biased, but lawsuits are objective definitive proof? I can bring a lawsuit about anything for any reason.

    This whole argument is stupid and useless. Finasteride does have side effects just like any other drug. The side effects are published and well documented. It is the only proven treatment that is currently available to slow, stop or possibly reverse hair loss. Every balding man should at least consider taking it. If you don't want to take it good for you, if you do want to take it good for you. Period end of story. Now please STFU!
    Pretty much my opinion as well.

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  • KO1
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    Which phase of clinical trials is Lauster in? Tsuji is a long way away from clinical trials of any kind, which he himself has stated.

    Replicel will work better on extant hair that is miniaturized, so you will want to keep the most you can.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
    Also, treatments like those of Replicel, Lauster, and Tsuji will not need to be aided with finasteride at all. These will be cellular treatments where the stem cells that are being multiplied will be taken from DHT-resistant cells anyway.
    Only problem is that Replicel's treatment isn't really using all the stem cells in a hair follicle, they're only using Dermal Sheath Cup cells, so its not really known yet if that alone will create new follicles from scratch. Its more likely that these cells may bind to existing miniaturized or dormant follicles and rejuvenate them.

    Tsuji's and Lauster's methods are the holy grail with Tsuji's method being superior only by the fact that it would enable simple cell injections and watching yourself grow a lion's mane of hair. Lauster's (for now anyway) would require implants of the artificial follicles which would be quite lengthy to do for full thickness (15,000+ follicles). However, I suppose since he's basically cloned them, perhaps he's got control over how many hairs grow out of a single follicle? Maybe you could have a choice of implanting only 3 and 4 hair grafts and lessen the amount of work, and then limit yourself to 1-3 hair grafts for the hairline for a natural look?

    Whatever the case is, their treatments are long overdue and Finasteride's death is also long overdue.

    I'm fvcking tired of waiting.

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  • greatjob!
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    Originally posted by cichlidfort
    There are so many grey areas in your argument it's hilarious. What are you basing your facts off of? Biased studies? Men on these forums? Yourself? Many men have had sides from the drug and I am sure there are a plethora of unreported cases. There are LAWSUITS against the drug because of the damage it's caused men! Stop being an ignorant fool and understand that this drug is not SAFE for everyone! Christ.... Do you honestly think every man is going to report negative side effects? I am not saying Fin doesn't do it's job but it is stone age in comparison to what's going to be coming out in the future.
    So peer reviewed studies are biased, but lawsuits are objective definitive proof? I can bring a lawsuit about anything for any reason.

    This whole argument is stupid and useless. Finasteride does have side effects just like any other drug. The side effects are published and well documented. It is the only proven treatment that is currently available to slow, stop or possibly reverse hair loss. Every balding man should at least consider taking it. If you don't want to take it good for you, if you do want to take it good for you. Period end of story. Now please STFU!

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  • DepressedByHairLoss
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    I don't buy those studies at all that say that finasteride has only 5% side effects. There are just too many examples to the contrary, myself included. I don't believe that our bodies simply produce DHT for no reason at all, and that major suppression of it will cause no side effects whatsoever.

    Also, treatments like those of Replicel, Lauster, and Tsuji will not need to be aided with finasteride at all. These will be cellular treatments where the stem cells that are being multiplied will be taken from DHT-resistant cells anyway.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by KO1
    Lauster has no method. He has been talking about clinical trials for years!
    Another FALSE statement:

    Lauster hasn't said shit since 2010, how would you know what he's been saying since?

    Watch the interviews with Lauster and he explains his method.

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