DR NIGAM, re: Tom Vercetti, the French Moderator

[didi]

Dr Nigams

What happens when you implant smaller part of bisected graft(part you currently put in donor) into recipient?

You are performing invitro so it gives you options to inject any part of graft wherever you want(either recipient or donor).

also, can you post some high quality photos of graft bisection process, we all all know how grafts are taken out(same as normal fue)
Once they are out you cut them in 2 parts, implanting one part in recip and other part in donor-AS PER PICTURE

[drnigams]

Sure,enlarged bisected graft pic on monday..bye.

OK thank you for your time. I'm looking forward to seeing the photographs. Have you seen the thread from the French Doctor who is also experimenting with hair doubling? I would encourage you to present your data in the same was as he did, showing a table with the original number of hairs for each FU, with a number for each FU and next to the original value show the new number of hairs per FU.

Very time consuming, but IMO it will be irrefutable if presented in this way.

I would also ask you to show me a close up photo of just 1 small bisected graft vs a large bisected graft. I haven't been able to find a photo showing exactly that.

[gc83uk]

1)MOST OF THEM WILL FIRST REPAIR AND THAN SHED..EXCEPT FEW..

2)THE DONOR CAN HAVE 1/2/3 BISECTED SMALL TINY PARTS,as i inject them with the needle attached to the syringe...not with forcep..i think you have seen the photos of the bisected grafts in the two pics ,i posted.

3)right,unless 1st or 2nd shot of stemcells with dp culture in coming months creates a new follicle..

4)right,but the number may vary, as i inject(not implant) the small part,not in my full control,sometines 1/2/3/4..

5)IF,I IMPLANT ONE LARGER PART OF BISECTED FOLLICLE...ONE FOLLICLE IS VISIBLE..AND IF,I IMPLANT,.. A TWO FOLLICLE GRAFT, TWO FOLLICLES ARE VISIBLE..LATER BOTH WILL SHED..AS IN NORMAL HT..IMPLANTS..AND REGROW AFTER FEW MONTHS..

OK thank you for your time. I'm looking forward to seeing the photographs. Have you seen the thread from the French Doctor who is also experimenting with hair doubling? I would encourage you to present your data in the same was as he did, showing a table with the original number of hairs for each FU, with a number for each FU and next to the original value show the new number of hairs per FU.

Very time consuming, but IMO it will be irrefutable if presented in this way.

I would also ask you to show me a close up photo of just 1 small bisected graft vs a large bisected graft. I haven't been able to find a photo showing exactly that.

[drnigams]

1)MOST OF THEM WILL FIRST REPAIR AND THAN SHED..EXCEPT FEW..

2)THE DONOR CAN HAVE 1/2/3 BISECTED SMALL TINY PARTS,as i inject them with the needle attached to the syringe...not with forcep..i think you have seen the photos of the bisected grafts in the two pics ,i posted.

3)right,unless 1st or 2nd shot of stemcells with dp culture in coming months creates a new follicle..

4)right,but the number may vary, as i inject(not implant) the small part,not in my full control,sometines 1/2/3/4..

5)IF,I IMPLANT ONE LARGER PART OF BISECTED FOLLICLE...ONE FOLLICLE IS VISIBLE..AND IF,I IMPLANT,.. A TWO FOLLICLE GRAFT, TWO FOLLICLES ARE VISIBLE..LATER BOTH WILL SHED..AS IN NORMAL HT..IMPLANTS..AND REGROW AFTER FEW MONTHS..

OK thank you! I have to admit I don't fully understand your in Vitro procedure, hence the following questions.

1)About the donor regeneration, is the smaller bisected part which is implanted in the donor as likely to shed as the larger bisected part is in the recipient in the coming days after the procedure or does the re-implanted smaller bisected part never shed? As Tom I think has already said, some of the hairs have shed.

2) When you re-implant this small bisected part in the donor, this is just 1 hair, right?

Related to question 2)Is the hair shaft visible when you re-implant it in the donor in the same way the recipient is?

Perhaps a photo of the small bisected part and the larger bisected part would be useful here.

3)So of the original 2 hair FU which has been extracted from the donor, if you hadn't of implanted the smaller bisected part back in the donor, then we would have no regrowth at all from this particular 2 hair FU, right?

4)So of the original 2 hair FU, this smaller bisected part that is implanted in the donor produces how many hairs? I'm guessing 2?
And again the larger part also produces 2 hairs right?

5) related to question 2) and 4)..... If there is indeed 1 hair visible when you re-implant in the donor area at the time of implanting, when does this visibly become 2 hairs? Does the original 1 hair shed and 2 new hairs emerge?

Obviously my questions are contradicting each other slightly in their wording, so some clarification would be nice. Thanks

[drnigams]

gc,
you have to go to page 6 of the thread drnigams my own experience...to view all pics..as i copy here..it does not open..
dear im wait,i1 have not yet presented the post pics officially..next week mid..you will get pics ..you want..as tom sends me the same..
gc,
i will answer your questions after 15 minutes..just finishing some important mails...
if the photos still do not open..sorry, you might have to visit..h.s on thread toms doubling pics..

Dr Nigam,

Only the first two links work, all the rest give 404.

Can you answer those questions 1 - 5 in the same order if possible please.

[gc83uk]

Dr Nigam,

Only the first two links work, all the rest give 404.

Can you answer those questions 1 - 5 in the same order if possible please.

[drnigams]

gc,
have a look at the pics of the bisected grafts ..if you missed it
by tuesday..i will start posting after pics(macro and micro) and by saturday..we should have good comparative pics..as tom sends me all the pics as we want..





you can visit page6 of the thread drnigams my own experience and view all pics..
the moderator has to excuse me..as the website mentioned posts are not allowed..but for this post..i had no option as it is too large..next time ,i will use picturepush etc..

OK thank you! I have to admit I don't fully understand your in Vitro procedure, hence the following questions.

1)About the donor regeneration, is the smaller bisected part which is implanted in the donor as likely to shed as the larger bisected part is in the recipient in the coming days after the procedure or does the re-implanted smaller bisected part never shed? As Tom I think has already said, some of the hairs have shed.

2) When you re-implant this small bisected part in the donor, this is just 1 hair, right?

Related to question 2)Is the hair shaft visible when you re-implant it in the donor in the same way the recipient is?

Perhaps a photo of the small bisected part and the larger bisected part would be useful here.

3)So of the original 2 hair FU which has been extracted from the donor, if you hadn't of implanted the smaller bisected part back in the donor, then we would have no regrowth at all from this particular 2 hair FU, right?

4)So of the original 2 hair FU, this smaller bisected part that is implanted in the donor produces how many hairs? I'm guessing 2?
And again the larger part also produces 2 hairs right?

5) related to question 2) and 4)..... If there is indeed 1 hair visible when you re-implant in the donor area at the time of implanting, when does this visibly become 2 hairs? Does the original 1 hair shed and 2 new hairs emerge?

Obviously my questions are contradicting each other slightly in their wording, so some clarification would be nice. Thanks

[534623]

Obviously my questions are contradicting each other...

I have a much better question:

Why I'm still completely unable to analyze anything properly from all the shit load of completely useless photos Nigam posts - contrary to your simple photos you, as a normal patient, posted for a proper analysis and documentation?

[gc83uk]

gc,
I did invitro technique for Tom,with 1bisected part( mostly, the larger fragment) at the recipient and the other bisected part(mostly the smaller fragment)at the donor..

Yes , i will provide you the photos, you need... by tuesday..not just of one 50 graft area..but would try to get from tom,multiple 50 areas pics..!
most easy way to monitor is before the wound marks subside..since this is invitro extraction..wound marks at least in micro pics should be visible for 1 more week..

IN THE MEAN TIME...
1)The donor micro pics clearly show regen at the extracted sites with the wound at the base of these regenerating follicles/grafts.
2)Recepient regen is also very good..as Tom sent me the macro pics of recepient tonight,which i will get it marked with circles on monaday..

OK thank you! I have to admit I don't fully understand your in Vitro procedure, hence the following questions.

1)About the donor regeneration, is the smaller bisected part which is implanted in the donor as likely to shed as the larger bisected part is in the recipient in the coming days after the procedure or does the re-implanted smaller bisected part never shed? As Tom I think has already said, some of the hairs have shed.

2) When you re-implant this small bisected part in the donor, this is just 1 hair, right?

Related to question 2)Is the hair shaft visible when you re-implant it in the donor in the same way the recipient is?

Perhaps a photo of the small bisected part and the larger bisected part would be useful here.

3)So of the original 2 hair FU which has been extracted from the donor, if you hadn't of implanted the smaller bisected part back in the donor, then we would have no regrowth at all from this particular 2 hair FU, right?

4)So of the original 2 hair FU, this smaller bisected part that is implanted in the donor produces how many hairs? I'm guessing 2?
And again the larger part also produces 2 hairs right?

5) related to question 2) and 4)..... If there is indeed 1 hair visible when you re-implant in the donor area at the time of implanting, when does this visibly become 2 hairs? Does the original 1 hair shed and 2 new hairs emerge?

Obviously my questions are contradicting each other slightly in their wording, so some clarification would be nice. Thanks

[HARIRI]

I strongly believe that the best FUE in the world is in Europe. North America is FUT oriented. However I mostly trust Dr. Umar when it comes to FUE and maybe Shapiro as well. This is it! You can negotiate with them for lowering the price. My personal choice would be Dr. Umar as he is a pure FUE guy with many video documented results (https://www.youtube.com/user/DrSUmar).

If you want top quality FUE with super results then you can try these two clinics:-

1) ASMED clinic in Istanbul-Turkey (Dr. Koray Erdogan) EURO 2.5 / graft
2) HDC clinic in Nicosia-Cyprus (Dr. Maras) EURO 3.5 / graft

These two are my favortie high quality/best value surgeons ;-)

Now lets go back to Dr. Nigam lol...Sorry.

[rdawg]

It was all about geography. For example, Dr. Koray Erdogan is considered to be one of the best FUE surgeons in the world and lately he had the best method and performance in the last FUE Mediterranean workshop in Madrid, however he only charges EURO 2.5 per graft. Sometimes cheaper price does not mean lower quality, its all about how much that money worth in the country the clinic based in.

If you are looking for FUE good work in India, you got Dr. Bhatti he is even cheaper around USD 1.28 (INR 70) per graft (http://www.hairtransplant-india.org/...air-transplant). However Dr. Nigam is completely different as he concentrates on hair doubling and growth factors. This is my personal thoughts.

What's the cheapest/best value in Canada and the USA?

[drnigams]

gc,
I did invitro technique for Tom,with 1bisected part( mostly, the larger fragment) at the recipient and the other bisected part(mostly the smaller fragment)at the donor..

Yes , i will provide you the photos, you need... by tuesday..not just of one 50 graft area..but would try to get from tom,multiple 50 areas pics..!
most easy way to monitor is before the wound marks subside..since this is invitro extraction..wound marks at least in micro pics should be visible for 1 more week..

IN THE MEAN TIME...
1)The donor micro pics clearly show regen at the extracted sites with the wound at the base of these regenerating follicles/grafts.
2)Recepient regen is also very good..as Tom sent me the macro pics of recepient tonight,which i will get it marked with circles on monaday..

Dr Nigam,

Regarding Tom's case, I haven't been watching it closely, but I take it you did this procedure in Vitro.

Did Tom have both halves of the bisected graft implanted in the recipient or did who choose to half the other half re-implanted back in the donor?

Secondly, I'm assuming he had both halves implanted in the recipient area... So in the donor have you photographed an area BEFORE and AFTER the extractions, with at least 50 extractions in ONE PHOTO, each extraction circled with a number?

Please link me these two photographs if you wouldn't mind doing so.

I would also like to see the latest photograph again with the same 50 grafts circled to see how the regeneration is going. I suspect you won't have these until Tom returns to the clinic in a few weeks, but I have also seen Tom is taking some fairly decent photographs, so I'm sure between you guys you can upload a photo and you Dr Nigam circle these same extractions and number them again... please show in a table each number and the number of hairs in each circle Before extractions and Now.

Hopefully that's not too much to ask for, but it will be quite damning IMO if each graft is showing 100% growth. What is important here is the NET increase of hairs.

[HARIRI]

It is all about geography. For example, Dr. Koray Erdogan is considered to be one of the best FUE surgeons in the world and lately he had the best method and performance in the last FUE Mediterranean workshop in Madrid, however he only charges EURO 2.5 per graft. Sometimes cheaper price does not mean lower quality, its all about how much that money worth in the country the clinic based in.

If you are looking for FUE good work in India, you got Dr. Bhatti he is even cheaper around USD 1.28 (INR 70) per graft (http://www.hairtransplant-india.org/...air-transplant). However Dr. Nigam is completely different as he concentrates on hair doubling and growth factors. This is my personal thoughts.

[rdawg]

is dr nigams procedure cheaper than other HT's?

the one major(well only) downfall of ht's is price, I can't afford to spend 5000 for 500 grafts or whatever, I'm only 21! I just cant justify that kind of price.

[gc83uk]

Dr Nigam,

Regarding Tom's case, I haven't been watching it closely, but I take it you did this procedure in Vitro.

Did Tom have both halves of the bisected graft implanted in the recipient or did who choose to half the other half re-implanted back in the donor?

Secondly, I'm assuming he had both halves implanted in the recipient area... So in the donor have you photographed an area BEFORE and AFTER the extractions, with at least 50 extractions in ONE PHOTO, each extraction circled with a number?

Please link me these two photographs if you wouldn't mind doing so.

I would also like to see the latest photograph again with the same 50 grafts circled to see how the regeneration is going. I suspect you won't have these until Tom returns to the clinic in a few weeks, but I have also seen Tom is taking some fairly decent photographs, so I'm sure between you guys you can upload a photo and you Dr Nigam circle these same extractions and number them again... please show in a table each number and the number of hairs in each circle Before extractions and Now.

Hopefully that's not too much to ask for, but it will be quite damning IMO if each graft is showing 100% growth. What is important here is the NET increase of hairs.