DR NIGAM, re: Tom Vercetti, the French Moderator

[didi]

Just saw an update from Tom, go to HS forum to see pics

Tom reports

'164 holes visible on this area, and 105 renegeration, that's mean 64% on day 10th'

'we can see 66% of regeneration. Let's see if we can reach the above 90% soon'

[didi]

This is some exciting stuff, im pretty sure regeneration will only get better in the next few weeks and hopefully we see 90%+ donor regeneration.

Recipient will be easy to monitor, its waiting game.

beauty of dr Nigams procedure is that you can do 5000 grafts in one pass and another 5000 a couple of months after, compare that to HST where you have to wait 6-7 years to achieve the same. By the time you get your last hst(assuming you don't run of donor) your best years will pass you by ,your bank account will be drained, on top of that it is emotionally exhausting to commit so much precious time and money.

even though its not true HM most people will be happy if you could double their donor without scarring.

Your transparency, passion, openness and motivation to find a cure are unmatched by any other doctor in the field.

I just wish you came earlier to this party

[534623]

Just saw an update from Tom, go to HS forum to see pics

Tom reports

'164 holes visible on this area, and 105 renegeration, that's mean 64% on day 10th'

'we can see 66% of regeneration. Let's see if we can reach the above 90% soon'

Sorry, I can't see neither the 164 visible extraction sites nor 105 regeneration sites in "his" photos; the latter means, I guess these pics are not even taken from Tom himself and/or not even from his own donor area.

Furthermore, I know very well how a donor area, in general, looks like after 10 days - unshaved, you simply can't see and can't count properly something anymore, especially if all previous photos are not properly documented. And all that means, that Tom's numbers are simply any thrown out numbers - as expected.

And the absolutly best thing:

http://www.drnigams.net/images/Tom/31-5-2013/Graft/Small/1.JPG

Can you explain me what exactly and from what exactly should something regenerate in the donor area after 10 days and after extraction of such fat and normal FUE grafts???

Ahh, I know, the tiny implanted tips of the in vitro cut off bulbs, sure ...

[534623]

beauty of dr Nigams procedure is that you can do 5000 grafts in one pass and another 5000 a couple of months after

...and the bad thing of didi's low IQ is - he doesn't buy the beauty of Dr. Nigam.

[gc83uk]

Dr Nigam,

Regarding Tom's case, I haven't been watching it closely, but I take it you did this procedure in Vitro.

Did Tom have both halves of the bisected graft implanted in the recipient or did who choose to half the other half re-implanted back in the donor?

Secondly, I'm assuming he had both halves implanted in the recipient area... So in the donor have you photographed an area BEFORE and AFTER the extractions, with at least 50 extractions in ONE PHOTO, each extraction circled with a number?

Please link me these two photographs if you wouldn't mind doing so.

I would also like to see the latest photograph again with the same 50 grafts circled to see how the regeneration is going. I suspect you won't have these until Tom returns to the clinic in a few weeks, but I have also seen Tom is taking some fairly decent photographs, so I'm sure between you guys you can upload a photo and you Dr Nigam circle these same extractions and number them again... please show in a table each number and the number of hairs in each circle Before extractions and Now.

Hopefully that's not too much to ask for, but it will be quite damning IMO if each graft is showing 100% growth. What is important here is the NET increase of hairs.

[rdawg]

is dr nigams procedure cheaper than other HT's?

the one major(well only) downfall of ht's is price, I can't afford to spend 5000 for 500 grafts or whatever, I'm only 21! I just cant justify that kind of price.

[HARIRI]

It is all about geography. For example, Dr. Koray Erdogan is considered to be one of the best FUE surgeons in the world and lately he had the best method and performance in the last FUE Mediterranean workshop in Madrid, however he only charges EURO 2.5 per graft. Sometimes cheaper price does not mean lower quality, its all about how much that money worth in the country the clinic based in.

If you are looking for FUE good work in India, you got Dr. Bhatti he is even cheaper around USD 1.28 (INR 70) per graft (http://www.hairtransplant-india.org/...air-transplant). However Dr. Nigam is completely different as he concentrates on hair doubling and growth factors. This is my personal thoughts.

[drnigams]

gc,
I did invitro technique for Tom,with 1bisected part( mostly, the larger fragment) at the recipient and the other bisected part(mostly the smaller fragment)at the donor..

Yes , i will provide you the photos, you need... by tuesday..not just of one 50 graft area..but would try to get from tom,multiple 50 areas pics..!
most easy way to monitor is before the wound marks subside..since this is invitro extraction..wound marks at least in micro pics should be visible for 1 more week..

IN THE MEAN TIME...
1)The donor micro pics clearly show regen at the extracted sites with the wound at the base of these regenerating follicles/grafts.
2)Recepient regen is also very good..as Tom sent me the macro pics of recepient tonight,which i will get it marked with circles on monaday..

Dr Nigam,

Regarding Tom's case, I haven't been watching it closely, but I take it you did this procedure in Vitro.

Did Tom have both halves of the bisected graft implanted in the recipient or did who choose to half the other half re-implanted back in the donor?

Secondly, I'm assuming he had both halves implanted in the recipient area... So in the donor have you photographed an area BEFORE and AFTER the extractions, with at least 50 extractions in ONE PHOTO, each extraction circled with a number?

Please link me these two photographs if you wouldn't mind doing so.

I would also like to see the latest photograph again with the same 50 grafts circled to see how the regeneration is going. I suspect you won't have these until Tom returns to the clinic in a few weeks, but I have also seen Tom is taking some fairly decent photographs, so I'm sure between you guys you can upload a photo and you Dr Nigam circle these same extractions and number them again... please show in a table each number and the number of hairs in each circle Before extractions and Now.

Hopefully that's not too much to ask for, but it will be quite damning IMO if each graft is showing 100% growth. What is important here is the NET increase of hairs.

[rdawg]

It was all about geography. For example, Dr. Koray Erdogan is considered to be one of the best FUE surgeons in the world and lately he had the best method and performance in the last FUE Mediterranean workshop in Madrid, however he only charges EURO 2.5 per graft. Sometimes cheaper price does not mean lower quality, its all about how much that money worth in the country the clinic based in.

If you are looking for FUE good work in India, you got Dr. Bhatti he is even cheaper around USD 1.28 (INR 70) per graft (http://www.hairtransplant-india.org/...air-transplant). However Dr. Nigam is completely different as he concentrates on hair doubling and growth factors. This is my personal thoughts.

What's the cheapest/best value in Canada and the USA?

[HARIRI]

I strongly believe that the best FUE in the world is in Europe. North America is FUT oriented. However I mostly trust Dr. Umar when it comes to FUE and maybe Shapiro as well. This is it! You can negotiate with them for lowering the price. My personal choice would be Dr. Umar as he is a pure FUE guy with many video documented results (https://www.youtube.com/user/DrSUmar).

If you want top quality FUE with super results then you can try these two clinics:-

1) ASMED clinic in Istanbul-Turkey (Dr. Koray Erdogan) EURO 2.5 / graft
2) HDC clinic in Nicosia-Cyprus (Dr. Maras) EURO 3.5 / graft

These two are my favortie high quality/best value surgeons ;-)

Now lets go back to Dr. Nigam lol...Sorry.

[gc83uk]

gc,
I did invitro technique for Tom,with 1bisected part( mostly, the larger fragment) at the recipient and the other bisected part(mostly the smaller fragment)at the donor..

Yes , i will provide you the photos, you need... by tuesday..not just of one 50 graft area..but would try to get from tom,multiple 50 areas pics..!
most easy way to monitor is before the wound marks subside..since this is invitro extraction..wound marks at least in micro pics should be visible for 1 more week..

IN THE MEAN TIME...
1)The donor micro pics clearly show regen at the extracted sites with the wound at the base of these regenerating follicles/grafts.
2)Recepient regen is also very good..as Tom sent me the macro pics of recepient tonight,which i will get it marked with circles on monaday..

OK thank you! I have to admit I don't fully understand your in Vitro procedure, hence the following questions.

1)About the donor regeneration, is the smaller bisected part which is implanted in the donor as likely to shed as the larger bisected part is in the recipient in the coming days after the procedure or does the re-implanted smaller bisected part never shed? As Tom I think has already said, some of the hairs have shed.

2) When you re-implant this small bisected part in the donor, this is just 1 hair, right?

Related to question 2)Is the hair shaft visible when you re-implant it in the donor in the same way the recipient is?

Perhaps a photo of the small bisected part and the larger bisected part would be useful here.

3)So of the original 2 hair FU which has been extracted from the donor, if you hadn't of implanted the smaller bisected part back in the donor, then we would have no regrowth at all from this particular 2 hair FU, right?

4)So of the original 2 hair FU, this smaller bisected part that is implanted in the donor produces how many hairs? I'm guessing 2?
And again the larger part also produces 2 hairs right?

5) related to question 2) and 4)..... If there is indeed 1 hair visible when you re-implant in the donor area at the time of implanting, when does this visibly become 2 hairs? Does the original 1 hair shed and 2 new hairs emerge?

Obviously my questions are contradicting each other slightly in their wording, so some clarification would be nice. Thanks

[534623]

Obviously my questions are contradicting each other...

I have a much better question:

Why I'm still completely unable to analyze anything properly from all the shit load of completely useless photos Nigam posts - contrary to your simple photos you, as a normal patient, posted for a proper analysis and documentation?

[drnigams]

gc,
have a look at the pics of the bisected grafts ..if you missed it
by tuesday..i will start posting after pics(macro and micro) and by saturday..we should have good comparative pics..as tom sends me all the pics as we want..





you can visit page6 of the thread drnigams my own experience and view all pics..
the moderator has to excuse me..as the website mentioned posts are not allowed..but for this post..i had no option as it is too large..next time ,i will use picturepush etc..

OK thank you! I have to admit I don't fully understand your in Vitro procedure, hence the following questions.

1)About the donor regeneration, is the smaller bisected part which is implanted in the donor as likely to shed as the larger bisected part is in the recipient in the coming days after the procedure or does the re-implanted smaller bisected part never shed? As Tom I think has already said, some of the hairs have shed.

2) When you re-implant this small bisected part in the donor, this is just 1 hair, right?

Related to question 2)Is the hair shaft visible when you re-implant it in the donor in the same way the recipient is?

Perhaps a photo of the small bisected part and the larger bisected part would be useful here.

3)So of the original 2 hair FU which has been extracted from the donor, if you hadn't of implanted the smaller bisected part back in the donor, then we would have no regrowth at all from this particular 2 hair FU, right?

4)So of the original 2 hair FU, this smaller bisected part that is implanted in the donor produces how many hairs? I'm guessing 2?
And again the larger part also produces 2 hairs right?

5) related to question 2) and 4)..... If there is indeed 1 hair visible when you re-implant in the donor area at the time of implanting, when does this visibly become 2 hairs? Does the original 1 hair shed and 2 new hairs emerge?

Obviously my questions are contradicting each other slightly in their wording, so some clarification would be nice. Thanks

[gc83uk]

Dr Nigam,

Only the first two links work, all the rest give 404.

Can you answer those questions 1 - 5 in the same order if possible please.

[drnigams]

gc,
you have to go to page 6 of the thread drnigams my own experience...to view all pics..as i copy here..it does not open..
dear im wait,i1 have not yet presented the post pics officially..next week mid..you will get pics ..you want..as tom sends me the same..
gc,
i will answer your questions after 15 minutes..just finishing some important mails...
if the photos still do not open..sorry, you might have to visit..h.s on thread toms doubling pics..

Dr Nigam,

Only the first two links work, all the rest give 404.

Can you answer those questions 1 - 5 in the same order if possible please.