Histogen Upcoming Events

[UK_]

If anyone lives near the sites of these conferences, they should definitely go check it out and tell us what the atmosphere was like, and maybe even raise their hand at the end of the presentation and ask a question for us all!

That'd be a lot more useful than all the whining some of us have been doing in here.

Lol too true.

[Thinning87]

If anyone lives near the sites of these conferences, they should definitely go check it out and tell us what the atmosphere was like, and maybe even raise their hand at the end of the presentation and ask a question for us all!

That'd be a lot more useful than all the whining some of us have been doing in here.

[paulsreef]

Just look at the aderans thread, one minute everyone is optimistic, then the next massive pessimism leaks.

This forum is bipolar at times.

I haven't been on here since last summer and nothing has changed, as if time has stood still. You are right, there are highs one day, and downs the next day, with no cure available yet. It's frustrating when time is the enemy and at the same time, we need time to find a cure. I'll check in later this summer and hopefully they'll be some good news.

[UK_]

God - are they ****ing serious? How can anyone have a go at Histogen when compared to the likes of Follica (which look 100% finished to me) and Aderans (who continually push back release dates and are never straight with the hair loss community).

[Kiwi]

It is very UNFAIR that there are members here that would defame ,scrutinize and insult Gail K. Naughton, a PhD., CEO, and Chairman of the Board of Histogen without any substantiated reasons except that Histogen has not yet finished their phase TESTINGS.
We are not talking about a 'fly by night' company either.
They have spent a lot of money and time to develop..SOMETHING.
Companies like Histogen review sites just like this one.
Its one of the reasons why they will NOT share with us what they know.
To be so unfair as to insult Dr.Naughton with no factual reasons why makes no sense at all.

Agreed.

There are some total douche bags on this site. But to be fair I just ignore them because balding emotional guys understandably say some dumb shit.

I guarantee that nobody on this site has raised the same amount of millions she has or come as close to she has to solving our problems.

Which makes her our boss. She ****ing owns all of us and more fool you if you're too stupid to get it.

[Artista]

It is very UNFAIR that there are members here that would defame ,scrutinize and insult Gail K. Naughton, a PhD., CEO, and Chairman of the Board of Histogen without any substantiated reasons except that Histogen has not yet finished their phase TESTINGS.
We are not talking about a 'fly by night' company either.
They have spent a lot of money and time to develop..SOMETHING.
Companies like Histogen review sites just like this one.
Its one of the reasons why they will NOT share with us what they know.
To be so unfair as to insult Dr.Naughton with no factual reasons why makes no sense at all.

[Nerve]

You guys are pathetic; just let them get on with it. The fact that it somewhat works,and is better then propecia says a lot.

I think its safe to say, they know more about hair loss related disorders then most guys on here.

Why contribute by contributing nothing?

[yeahyeahyeah]

That was so insightful.

Just look at the aderans thread, one minute everyone is optimistic, then the next massive pessimism leaks.

This forum is bipolar at times.

[youngin]

You guys are pathetic; just let them get on with it. The fact that it somewhat works,and is better then propecia says a lot.

I think its safe to say, they know more about hair loss related disorders then most guys on here.

That was so insightful.

[yeahyeahyeah]

You guys are pathetic; just let them get on with it. The fact that it somewhat works,and is better then propecia says a lot.

I think its safe to say, they know more about hair loss related disorders then most guys on here.

[youngin]

Maybe this catchup hairloss phenomenon is related to PGD2 (i.e. inflammation)!

Maybe blocking PGD2 may not grow more hair, but simply taking it in combination with Propecia may prevent the underlying inflammatory damage!

As a result, once you quit Propecia, you do not suffer from catchup hairloss, but rather a return to the original slow pace of hair thining/receding!

Just a theory

There is theory saying that excessive sebum gives an environment for bacteria to grow, and then your immune system starts attacking (ala acne), which eventually ends in fibrosis. Studies support all of these steps. Yet I think there's more to it. The underlying cause has yet to be discovered, but is probably a number of factors (like calcification of scalp, and UV damage, hair density, body toxification). DHT blockers grow hair. Immune system suppressants grow hair (Cyclosporin A). Some growth factors grow hair. Its possible that Histogens injections work by reducing Cytokine signaling within the scalp, thus allowing hair to grow. Follicles that have fibrosis will likely still not grow though.

[youngin]

I think there's alot of variables. DHT, sebum, inflammation, CALCIFICATION. Reducing DHT reduces all of those and allows for hair growth.

[Desmond84]

Maybe this catchup hairloss phenomenon is related to PGD2 (i.e. inflammation)!

Maybe blocking PGD2 may not grow more hair, but simply taking it in combination with Propecia may prevent the underlying inflammatory damage!

As a result, once you quit Propecia, you do not suffer from catchup hairloss, but rather a return to the original slow pace of hair thining/receding!

Just a theory

[Desmond84]

Makes sense, but think about it:

- Say, you have taken Propecia for 4 years! All of a sudden you stop Propecia and within 12 months you're back to where you would have been if you didn't take it anyway!

- So, if Propecia was halting hairloss, you would NOT expect things to be so drastically fast if you quit!

- I think, there's a part to the puzzle we are not aware of yet! Propecia may allow the hair to grow but is not stopping whatever underlying damage is going on. And the minute you stop taking it, things fall apart instantly!

[youngin]

Wow interesting!

I think there are TWO major phenomenon that we still don't understand about MPB:

1) Why isn't it reversible? (fibrosis is probably the most plausible theory)

2) Catch hairloss upon discontinuing Propecia! (what on earth is going on there)

1. dht/sebum
2. inflammation
3. fibrosis