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  • Desmond84
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    I suppose funding will come if what they're presenting in one month is groundbreaking. This is because we have human data NOT mice!

    I don't know if you guys picked up on it or not but in the latest interview Dr. Washenik did with a radio station in Singapore, he briefly mentioned Histogen and how that could really change hair loss treatments! Maybe Aderans is looking into it? I suppose we'll find out soon enough

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  • Thinning87
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    So........... I don't know if any of you read my post from Sunday night in this thread, but there may be a problem with Histogen....

    In the interview to Dr. Naughton I posted, she says their business plan includes signing some kind of licensing agreement with some other company to fund further development and commercialization. This was back at the end of October.

    Well, they recently launched a JV called PUR Biologics that fits the description. However (and this is not completely clear from the interview) it seems this JV will focus on the orthopedic applications ONLY, and not HSC.

    So I hope they have money to carry on uninterruptedly from their Phase 1/2A results and dive straight into Phase 2B, because otherwise what this means is that we have to wait for this licensing agreement to be reached before product development can continue.

    I don't expect any great news from Dr. Naugthon's attendance at these conferences... because they may just not matter.

    If what I'm saying is true (and I hope it isn't) this is a further delay before commercialization.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by paulsreef
    I haven't been on here that much lately, there's no talk of Replicel, is it out of the running?
    No, its still in, theyre starting Phase II trials this year I believe. They're just late to the game.

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  • paulsreef
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    I haven't been on here that much lately, there's no talk of Replicel, is it out of the running?

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by Arashi
    I've been reading the RU thread here and there's still not much evidence from the users here. My hairloss has always been at a slow (but steady) pace so it would be hard to notice a difference, unless maybe over a long period of time, like at least a year.

    Nah I'll just stay off the meds. Going back in august for my 2nd Gho treatment
    It takes a long time for any treatment to see results though and you'd need to shed too to toss out the thin hairs and regrow them with thicker terminal hairs. Hair growth cycles can last about 2 or so months before the hair finally sprouts but even then its another month or so before you start to even notice it close up, as hair grows about 1-1.5cm per month (10-15cm/year). So realistically, you're looking at many months of waiting with treatments or even surgical treatments from Gho (hence the 6+ month waiting period all FUT/FUE/HST procedures require).

    I'd get on RU though if I were to use topically at night and slow down miniaturization. If you get sides, I'd switch to CB as it goes benign when and if it enters the blood stream (very little CB is needed to be effective and is apparently 4X as strong as Finasteride). It only blocks DHT rather so sexual side effects are damn near impossible. CB is the shit.

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  • Arashi
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    I've been reading the RU thread here and there's still not much evidence from the users here. My hairloss has always been at a slow (but steady) pace so it would be hard to notice a difference, unless maybe over a long period of time, like at least a year.

    Nah I'll just stay off the meds. Going back in august for my 2nd Gho treatment

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by Henkeh91
    Ah.. thanks! I'll probably start with finas then (although I've been against it for a long time) and hope for no sides.
    I'd try RU before Finas though. A combination of RU and Keratene should prove far more lethal than Finas alone without any side effects.

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  • Henkeh91
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    We don't know yet. But it seems like Aderans will work best for thinning rather than bald patches. I remember seeing some of their results and the most hair grew around areas where there already was hair, ie; bald crown closing in but not completely.

    We'll know more however in the coming months. At this point we can only speculate what it will do but can definitely make certain calls on what they've already achieved based on the info they've given to the public.
    Ah.. thanks! I'll probably start with finas then (although I've been against it for a long time) and hope for no sides.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by Arashi
    I guess you do have a point, but really, I hate meds. Not going to touch Minox/Fin for sure. And RU, was just reading upon that, but it's something you mix yourself and can't be legally bought ? Maybe I'm just being a ***** here, lol, and probably a bit hypocritical too since I did party quite a lot when I was a youngster and took my fair share of stuff that's far from legal, hehe, but really, I just don't want to touch stuff like that ... Especially Fin, risking your sexlife, I'd rather go bold ...
    You can easily get RU from MPBTreatments and Kane. CB is also available from Kane. Mixing yourself isn't much of a hassle since you can make 5 day batches, so once a week.

    Its worth the effort. I haven't had any sides from RU since starting over a year ago and none so far from CB (only on my 4th day). Saw Palmetto however, DOES give me sides... no surprise as its an oral DHT inhibitor like Finasteride.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by Henkeh91
    My hair is thin on the whole head (front, temple and crown). I guess I'm gonna land on an norwood 5. Does that mean I won't get my hair back with Histogen and Aderans?
    We don't know yet. But it seems like Aderans will work best for thinning rather than bald patches. I remember seeing some of their results and the most hair grew around areas where there already was hair, ie; bald crown closing in but not completely.

    We'll know more however in the coming months. At this point we can only speculate what it will do but can definitely make certain calls on what they've already achieved based on the info they've given to the public.

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    If anyone is planning to get the best results with Aderans and Histogen, its going to be absolutely VITAL to maintain what you have *right now*. So a regiment consisting of RU/CB/Minox/Keratene/Finasteride/Nizoral is going to be crucial. CB and RU will help halt hairs from miniaturization and should maintain the vellus hairs as well which in turn should turn all of them into terminal and potentially create new regrowth as well. Depending on how progressive someones hair loss is, not doing anything until Aderans/Histogen are released is playing with fire.

    A procedure from Gho in the meantime shouldn't compromise an Aderans or Histogen treatment as it doesn't destroy follicles in surrounding areas. I do still think an HST procedure with Gho is required to fill in the completely bald spots (temples, hairline and crown). Thankfully, I only need the temples and hairline, so about 1,800 grafts to get me back to norm. Thinning I will let RU and CB handle. I think I've more or less maintained for the last 2 years, thank god. If I can continue maintenance for another 2 years, I should be set. Which is why I'm saying: GET ON RU/CB NOW AND REAP THE BENEFITS LATER!
    I guess you do have a point, but really, I hate meds. Not going to touch Minox/Fin for sure. And RU, was just reading upon that, but it's something you mix yourself and can't be legally bought ? Maybe I'm just being a ***** here, lol, and probably a bit hypocritical too since I did party quite a lot when I was a youngster and took my fair share of stuff that's far from legal, hehe, but really, I just don't want to touch stuff like that ... Especially Fin, risking your sexlife, I'd rather go bold ...

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  • Henkeh91
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    If anyone is planning to get the best results with Aderans and Histogen, its going to be absolutely VITAL to maintain what you have *right now*. So a regiment consisting of RU/CB/Minox/Keratene/Finasteride/Nizoral is going to be crucial. CB and RU will help halt hairs from miniaturization and should maintain the vellus hairs as well which in turn should turn all of them into terminal and potentially create new regrowth as well. Depending on how progressive someones hair loss is, not doing anything until Aderans/Histogen are released is playing with fire.

    A procedure from Gho in the meantime shouldn't compromise an Aderans or Histogen treatment as it doesn't destroy follicles in surrounding areas. I do still think an HST procedure with Gho is required to fill in the completely bald spots (temples, hairline and crown). Thankfully, I only need the temples and hairline, so about 1,800 grafts to get me back to norm. Thinning I will let RU and CB handle. I think I've more or less maintained for the last 2 years, thank god. If I can continue maintenance for another 2 years, I should be set. Which is why I'm saying: GET ON RU/CB NOW AND REAP THE BENEFITS LATER!
    My hair is thin on the whole head (front, temple and crown). I guess I'm gonna land on an norwood 5. Does that mean I won't get my hair back with Histogen and Aderans?

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  • hellouser
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    If anyone is planning to get the best results with Aderans and Histogen, its going to be absolutely VITAL to maintain what you have *right now*. So a regiment consisting of RU/CB/Minox/Keratene/Finasteride/Nizoral is going to be crucial. CB and RU will help halt hairs from miniaturization and should maintain the vellus hairs as well which in turn should turn all of them into terminal and potentially create new regrowth as well. Depending on how progressive someones hair loss is, not doing anything until Aderans/Histogen are released is playing with fire.

    A procedure from Gho in the meantime shouldn't compromise an Aderans or Histogen treatment as it doesn't destroy follicles in surrounding areas. I do still think an HST procedure with Gho is required to fill in the completely bald spots (temples, hairline and crown). Thankfully, I only need the temples and hairline, so about 1,800 grafts to get me back to norm. Thinning I will let RU and CB handle. I think I've more or less maintained for the last 2 years, thank god. If I can continue maintenance for another 2 years, I should be set. Which is why I'm saying: GET ON RU/CB NOW AND REAP THE BENEFITS LATER!

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  • Henkeh91
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    I believe in Histogen and the other future treatments.

    The future is bright!

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by Desmond84
    So true...even fin takes 12 months to cycle thick terminals hairs! let's hope Histogen will do the same!

    Ocober 2012 was one of the most memorable times of my life! Those headlines about Histogen's results really made my day I'm just hoping for some more good news!
    The awesome thing about Histogen is that it seems like the growth stimulants are similar to Minox but on steroids. So much so that it seems to overpower DHT's effects. I think that in combination with CB should provide substantial growth and proper maintenance. Let's just hope that the cost for a procedure isn't extreme.

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