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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by FearTheLoss
    In the trials we know so far they are testing on subjects using this as a stand alone treatment...subjects are still showing positive growth and hair count 2 years after the first injection...without dht inhibiting drug like propecia being taking...so they have not only shown maintenance, but unprecedented regrowth. Hopefully this next update is what we are all looking to hear and this forum will be a brighter place
    Combine that with a combination of FIN/Keratene/RU/CB/Minox or even HST from Gho and you should be cured.

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  • FearTheLoss
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    In the trials we know so far they are testing on subjects using this as a stand alone treatment...subjects are still showing positive growth and hair count 2 years after the first injection...without dht inhibiting drug like propecia being taking...so they have not only shown maintenance, but unprecedented regrowth. Hopefully this next update is what we are all looking to hear and this forum will be a brighter place

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  • Thinning87
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    Despite the early promise, I've got this horrible feeling that they will present something underwhelming and we will be back to square one come May, and we will all be saying ' how come they are back to stage X when they presented such promising initial results '

    God, I hope I'm wrong. Come on Histogen, don't let me down!!!
    I don't know man, I tend to be cautious when it comes to this but I don't see how they can be bad. They obviously have something good, the only question now is durability of the results in the long run IMHO.

    If I have to pay 10k a year I will, as long as it can keep my hair in a natural nw1 as I am only 25 and thinning. I would even accept finasteride if I had the guarantee of a well functioning histogen growth factor.

    IMHO we shouldn't panick if we don't hear great news and announcements soon, especially the first ones when they'll obviously focus on facial skin rejuvination

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  • The Alchemist
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    Originally posted by Jasari
    While I hope Histogen can provide dramatic regrowth; I hope as a minimum it halts the progression of hair loss indefinitely. At least if that was the case, you wouldn't have to worry about further hair loss following a transplant to fix your current condition.
    I would be thrilled if it was shown to halt hairloss. Could throw away minoxidil, transplant the hairline and be done with these forums for good.

    Can't believe how much the lawsuit with skinmedica delayed this. It's just unfcuking believable when you think how close they could be to market if it wasn't for those greedy, litigious SOBS.

    Hopefully Histogen can get into an eastern market after they complete phase II. My hair is fading fast and i'm not sure how much longer i can hold on.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by Jasari
    While I hope Histogen can provide dramatic regrowth; I hope as a minimum it halts the progression of hair loss indefinitely. At least if that was the case, you wouldn't have to worry about further hair loss following a transplant to fix your current condition.
    Only way it will halt it is if the growth stimulants from Histogen can continually cause growth where DHT's effects on the follicles will be rendered useless. Otherwise, DHT is still there furthering hair miniaturization.

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  • Jasari
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    While I hope Histogen can provide dramatic regrowth; I hope as a minimum it halts the progression of hair loss indefinitely. At least if that was the case, you wouldn't have to worry about further hair loss following a transplant to fix your current condition.

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by Scientalk56
    we all saw the initial results from phase i/ii, and they were impressive. so i don't think it will be underwhelming.

    The question is when will they start phase IIb...
    We've seen preliminary phase I/II results, they were great, so question is not if they will be underwhelming, question is: are they even BETTER than what we've seen so far.

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by Scientalk56
    Am i the only one who's interested in FDA approved drug? :O
    Honestly, I'll probably wait for FDA approval too and bridge the time with another Gho HST, but just merely KNOWING that this treatment is available would be a really comforting feeling.

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  • Scientalk56
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    Despite the early promise, I've got this horrible feeling that they will present something underwhelming and we will be back to square one come May, and we will all be saying ' how come they are back to stage X when they presented such promising initial results '

    God, I hope I'm wrong. Come on Histogen, don't let me down!!!
    we all saw the initial results from phase i/ii, and they were impressive. so i don't think it will be underwhelming.

    The question is when will they start phase IIb...

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  • garethbale
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    Despite the early promise, I've got this horrible feeling that they will present something underwhelming and we will be back to square one come May, and we will all be saying ' how come they are back to stage X when they presented such promising initial results '

    God, I hope I'm wrong. Come on Histogen, don't let me down!!!

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  • Scientalk56
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    Am i the only one who's interested in FDA approved drug? :O

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  • FearTheLoss
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    I don't believe there is any time they have to wait to get approval in Asia...they can release it right after the testing is done...it would be nice if they were already starting or had already started 2b...but realistically i would say q2 2015...

    that being said, it will be nice to know that something is coming and it's something good..lets just hope these results are what we want to hear

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by rdawg
    National Procedures Institute - Cosmetic and Anti-Aging Medicine
    April 25 - 26, 2013
    Charlston, SC
    Dr. Gail Naughton to speak on the topic of Stem Cell Research and Technology in Cosmetic Dermatology.

    National Institute of Health (NIH) Biotechnology Training Program
    April 26, 2013
    Washington State University
    Dr. Gail Naughton to present.

    International Investigative Dermatology Annual Meeting
    May 8 - 11, 2013
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Histogen to present "Embryonic-like cell-secreted proteins induce hair growth in a phase I/II trial in male pattern baldness".

    If not the first two then 100% we will be getting an update may 8th-11th.
    Judging by the titles, it would make a lot of sense that they´re going to discuss final phase I/II results on that May meeting. I doubt they'll leak anything in those end of april meetings, but who knows.

    Anyway, very exciting stuff all this ! If there aren't any complications, then yes, this should be available somewhere in 2015 in Asia (half year to get Phase IIb started, a year to run Phase IIb and then some months to get approval for Asia).

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by rdawg
    I've heard this as well. If they start 2B soon you could see it available late 2014.

    Its north america that is a few years away.

    but by Asia what countries would that include? I'd honestly fly out if the cost isnt crazy and the product actually works well.
    Take a vacation to Asia. Will do you good seeing another culture. Since its injections, you won't have any ugly healing as you would with FUE or HST thus you'll be able to enjoy your time there. Kill two birds with one stone.

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  • rdawg
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    Originally posted by FearTheLoss
    Histogen will be available in asia after phase 2b...there is no need to do a phase III trial for asia as there is no FDA approval required. We are looking at 2015 asia and 2017 usa
    I've heard this as well. If they start 2B soon you could see it available late 2014.

    Its north america that is a few years away.

    but by Asia what countries would that include? I'd honestly fly out if the cost isnt crazy and the product actually works well.

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