REDPILL: If you're not on some type of antiandrogen...

[Jcm800]

Thanks, not sure what you meant by ephedrine for cutting? Do you mean as in cutting up /losing weight? Or have I totally misunderstood?!

[Hicks]

Sorry, I meant you. How long have you been on the Fin? I'm so tempted, week by week I get near to trying it but back out.

almost 15 months. I started out slow. tried to cut my proscar into 6ths and I was taking it maybe 2 times a week for a few weeks then 3 times a week and slowing bumping it up. I still TRY to cut mine into 6ths but it's hard and usually it cuts into 5th. Sometimes I'm just lazy and cut into 4ths. I also TRY to take mine on an empty stomach before I go to bed.

Maybe try cutting it into 6th or 5th taking it twice a week? My cleaning lady went to the emergency room from taking to much Motrin. I take ephedrine for cutting. Risk reward deal. I told myself I was going on the big 3 for a year to see how things got then look at a HT. My HT is in 2 weeks.

[Jcm800]

Not sure who you are asking. Me, I've notice the gyno at 17/18 had surgery at 20/21 I can't remember. Got on fin at 33, so far know sign of gyno.

Sorry, I meant you. How long have you been on the Fin? I'm so tempted, week by week I get near to trying it but back out.

[Hicks]

Great, but sadly you got Fin induced gynaecomastia correct?

Not sure who you are asking. Me, I've notice the gyno at 17/18 had surgery at 20/21 I can't remember. Got on fin at 33, so far know sign of gyno.

[youngin]

Are you kidding? Gyno better than hair loss? LOL

I would way rather be a NW6 with a ripped body, than a NW0 with little girly boobs. That would be much more embarrassing!

[fred970]

He will tell you that there's no viable solution available today, even if this is not true.

He acts like a spoiled child: "I want a cure, now! And without side-effects, now!"

[Jcm800]

Great, but sadly you got Fin induced gynaecomastia correct?

[Hicks]

You mean there's a solution for hair loss too?

Big 3 has been working very good for me. HT should finish the job. Although I wish I caught this disease sooner it's better late than never.

[Hicks]

And that sounded belittling. I don't mean it to.

Gynaecomastia is a side that scares the life of me personally.

No worries man, lets just hope I (none of us for that matter) don't get heart disease that runs in the family.

[hellouser]

Wrong. I had Gyno and hairloss is way better.

You mean there's a solution for hair loss too?

[Jcm800]

And that sounded belittling. I don't mean it to.

Gynaecomastia is a side that scares the life of me personally.

[Jcm800]

Having gyno can't be a nice experience. Hairloss sucks ass, but having teeny girls tits can't be fun at all.

[fred970]

Thank you Hicks.

[Hicks]

I admit your gyno was pretty unaesthetic but compared to hair loss it was not bad. It is not like everyone looked at you in public saying "that guy has gyno"....but hair loss everyone can see from a mile away
Also 1 cheap surgery & you are done. @ NW5 you will need at least 2 megasessions (expensive surgeries) to be anywhere close to restored. This is assuming you have enough donor which many people do not, & of course no amount of surgery will restore a fully dense NW1.

If I could trade hair loss for gyno it would be a blessing for me

Wrong. I had Gyno and hairloss is way better.

[fred970]

I think you have to experience it to understand. How embarrassed it makes you feel, how less than a man. Spending all the summer of 2012 in a double sweater was not fun either. No one could see it, but the psychological trauma prevented me from doing... everything I guess, imagine taking your shirt of with a girl, it would be like she discovered you wore a wig.

Little rant about cosmetic surgery: my operation was not cheap, it was completely free here in Belgium, I didn't have to spend a dime. Why this double-standard? 4000 grafts in two FUE sessions would cost me 10000€ here. I thought about writing a letter to my insurance company exposing this but I guess they would laugh at my face.