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I don't see any reason, why the combination of fin and dut should be "poisonous". I only think that it is unnecessary. I have been on this combination for 11 weeks already, because it turned out that finasteride did NOTHING in me (well, except incessant shedding). In fact, it was an utter joke, as for the suppression of my DHT levels.
After those 11 weeks, my DHT levels FINALLY started to decline on the level that is typical for average finasteride users (from 25-32 ng/dl to 17 ng/dl). And it took 1.25 mg fin + 0.25 mg dut! The next week, I will jump on 0.375 mg dut + 1.25 mg fin, which would roughly equal to the effect of 0.5 mg dut. In the next months, I plan to quit finasteride completely, but I still have 20 pills (=80 days), so it would be unreasonable to throw it into a scrap basket.
On my example, you can see that finasteride is completely ineffective in some men. The reason obviously lies in the large standard deviation of DHT suppression, as this graph demonstrates:
The average is more or less the same in all studies (-70% DHT), but some guys can experience -90% suppression, while others less than -50%. On sufficiently high dutasteride doses, these differences quickly disappear. Therefore, I keep telling young people: Don't waste your time with finasteride. It was a breakthrough at its time, but now it is an outdated drug. There is no rational reason, why you should start finasteride as the first treatment.
BTW, the only side effects that I have noticed on dutasteride are increased libido and acne on my back.
After those 11 weeks, my DHT levels FINALLY started to decline on the level that is typical for average finasteride users (from 25-32 ng/dl to 17 ng/dl). And it took 1.25 mg fin + 0.25 mg dut! The next week, I will jump on 0.375 mg dut + 1.25 mg fin, which would roughly equal to the effect of 0.5 mg dut. In the next months, I plan to quit finasteride completely, but I still have 20 pills (=80 days), so it would be unreasonable to throw it into a scrap basket.
On my example, you can see that finasteride is completely ineffective in some men. The reason obviously lies in the large standard deviation of DHT suppression, as this graph demonstrates:
The average is more or less the same in all studies (-70% DHT), but some guys can experience -90% suppression, while others less than -50%. On sufficiently high dutasteride doses, these differences quickly disappear. Therefore, I keep telling young people: Don't waste your time with finasteride. It was a breakthrough at its time, but now it is an outdated drug. There is no rational reason, why you should start finasteride as the first treatment.
BTW, the only side effects that I have noticed on dutasteride are increased libido and acne on my back.
Now as to your other statement about Finasteride being an outdated 20 year drug whose time has past is a subjective opinion of your own that you are trying to import to others as a fact. That is patently false as a general statement that is made as if you were an expert in the field.
That is your opinion like my own which you are free to have based on your own subjective experiences but it is hardly a known fact. Scientific clinical trials would beg to differ with you in terms of evidence showing that Finasteride still after 20 years has a lot of mileage to go in terms of it positive hair regrowth in men over all of that time.
And it still is one of the most widely prescribed or generically distributed DHT inhibitors to this day. It would not be if the majority of bald men so no results whatsoever.
It would have failed in the first 5 years of its introduction or less in the market had it not shown tested and proven results over a period of time and not been around for as long as it has so far.
It has worked and continues to work for others here on this forum board.
And you also would just mention like Patiently Waiting you are actively now using both and taking both in your systems right now. It has worked for me and reversed out a considerable area of baldness after 10 months and I am looking to see what it does past 10 months and into a year and past that hopefully. If it doesn't I can wean myself off of Finasteride and start Dutasteride safely which is what I am promoting here. Cycling off of one drug safely before starting the next one. Period.
So if Fin were that useless in efficacy then why are you both still taking it in combination with Dutasteride right now ? That makes no sense as you would just be taking Dutasteride followed with whatever regimen of topical you might use in concert with that. Your actions contradict your use of charts and your previously made statements.... negating them actually.
If there was a total confidence on your part in Dutasteride alone as the goto drug and that Fin was a waste of time then neither of you would still be taking Finasteride today mixing any dosages and you would just be on Dutasteride. From what you are saying then you are both throwing money away on one product while the other is producing your gains and results.
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