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  • mark-1
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 84

    Dutasteride

    Hi everyone

    Has anyone tried Dutasteride? The reason I ask is that Fin isn't working for me. I want to try Dutasteride to see if I respond to it. Few questions:

    1) Does it work better than fin?
    2) Which version should I get? I notice on inhouseparmacy there is Dutagen, Dutas and Avodart. The price differences between these is fairly substantial.

    PS: Is inhousepharmacy a reputable source for these meds?


    Thanks in advance
  • Shan
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 366

    #2
    How long have you been taking Fin?

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    • drybone
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 867

      #3
      Hi and welcome. I am kinda in the same boat as you are.

      I have been on fin for almost 3 months. I have had two minor sheds but combined my frontal hair looks thinner. However, I had a hair transplant so some of it could have been shock loss right behind the implants.

      Someone on here has also suggested I switch to DUT .However, I went through minor side effects on Fin and now have none, and I am not sure about chucking that out the window for an even stronger med.

      I too am wondering just how much better DUT is and if it will actually regrow hair

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      • Shan
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 366

        #4
        Originally posted by drybone
        Hi and welcome. I am kinda in the same boat as you are.

        I have been on fin for almost 3 months. I have had two minor sheds but combined my frontal hair looks thinner. However, I had a hair transplant so some of it could have been shock loss right behind the implants.

        Someone on here has also suggested I switch to DUT .However, I went through minor side effects on Fin and now have none, and I am not sure about chucking that out the window for an even stronger med.

        I too am wondering just how much better DUT is and if it will actually regrow hair
        I think you should consider yourself lucky that your sides went away, and will probably get worse ones on a stronger medicine.

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        • Aames
          Inactive
          • Nov 2012
          • 626

          #5
          Hey, OP. 25 going on 65, PatientlyWaiting, and I all use duta and have logs up if you care to make a search. I can personally attest to the validity of Dr. Reddy's Dutas from inhouse. I have a blood test in my log that shows that I have the DHT levels of a child, obviously indicating that the medicine is working and is legitimate. No sides to report with just over two months under my belt.

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          • mark-1
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 84

            #6
            Originally posted by Aames
            Hey, OP. 25 going on 65, PatientlyWaiting, and I all use duta and have logs up if you care to make a search. I can personally attest to the validity of Dr. Reddy's Dutas from inhouse. I have a blood test in my log that shows that I have the DHT levels of a child, obviously indicating that the medicine is working and is legitimate. No sides to report with just over two months under my belt.
            So inhousepharmacy is legit?

            Would you recommend the generic? The real thing costs too much.

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            • PatientlyWaiting
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1637

              #7
              I'm 1 month in using Dutagen 0.5 a day from Inhouse, along with fin 1.25/day [Dr Reddy's], and Rogaine twice a day. The results so far are not what I expected with just 1 month of use, and I mean that in a good way. I'm having to use less Toppik now [hair concealer]. I would say the Dutasteride has to be a big part of this good thickening i'm getting, because I have been on Rogaine twice a day and 1.25mg fin/day in the past and didn't see the results i'm getting now, until like months and months of use.

              I was expecting to see what i'm getting now, in like 6 months. My plan was to update my thread with pics in 6 months, but with the results i'm getting i'll have to bring the date down to 3-4 months, and i'm even tempted to show you guys the before and after pics I have now. But i'll wait till I get more thickening.

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              • ChrisM
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 299

                #8
                People who are thinking of Dutasteride should maybe consider the following:

                Dutasteride is the stronger cousin of Finasteride. If you have side effects from Finasteride they will only more than likely worsen with Dutasteride as they share the same chemical profile and both stop the prostrate and testes from creating the dihydrotestosterone giving your hair the space it needs to recuperate.

                If you had no gains with Finasteride it is a 50/50 gamble that Dutasteride will work that is if the miniaturized hairs are not too far gone based on the time they have been in that state and the arrector pilli muscle pushing the hair up the shaft has not atrophied to the point of being gone. That will determine if under the right conditions if the vellus "peach fuzz" hairs will stay that way or with Minoxidil become terminal hairs and grow out fuller with consistent use of Finasteride, Minoxidil and Nizoral.. you need all three for success.

                I have used Finasteride ten months now and seen slow but successful results over time but patience is needed. Three months you won't see anything no one would so that is unrealistic no matter what product you used. Restoration from hair loss is a long and involved process that would take at least on the outside if at the least 8 months to a year to see anything. Most say it would take a year or more to see something definitive in terms of changes.

                I am Norwood 5 with the classic horseshoe pattern and yet the hairs are sprouting up and darkening on the crown and the vertex that were vellus hairs and the density is increasing after starting my use of the drug since last July going to my tenth month but even this will take time and I have experienced minimal shedding so far.

                But shedding is not or does not automatically equal a bad thing. People think automatically this is the worst. No it means the medication is working to push out the dead hair that can not be revived out for new growing hair through the follicle shaft.

                If you use Finasteride as a primer you can always go to Dutasteride later on if you wish to improve results but if you start with Dutasteride you can not go back to Finasteride as that is a step downward it would be like the analogy of going from the 800 pound gorilla in the room down to the 20 pound monkey.

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                • PatientlyWaiting
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1637

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ChrisM
                  Three months you won't see anything no one would so that is unrealistic no matter what product you used. .
                  That does it.

                  Explain what is going in here then.

                  Click the picture to see larger version:

                  Before pic: March 29th, 2013.

                  After pic: Today [4/26].

                  Before:


                  After:

                  take screen shot

                  Less than 1 month. So explain that? The pictures aren't the best quality, but it is clear as day that my vertex was damn near hair less on March 29th, and now there's hair today. That's one month buddy. So what you said is false. Same hair cut, both pics in the bathroom under the same light, same angle, same spot.

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                  • PatientlyWaiting
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1637

                    #10
                    Like seriously, why would I even lie to myself? Give my self false hope. Why? There's no point in that. Not a big deal, but the pictures show obvious thickening in less than one month.

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                    • ChrisM
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 299

                      #11
                      Also using both at the same time is pretty stupid. I have my happy and healthy kids already so I am not jeopardizing my ability to procreate by bringing a about a side effect like erectile dysfunction or low ejaculate and sperm count. Even so I started off with Finasteride to see if the side effects would take shape which in the beginning they did happen and then stopped altogether and my erections came back strong as ever. You wean yourself off of one drug Finasteride before using the other Dutasteride that is just plain common sense because the mixture of both could set off god knows what in your system.

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                      • PatientlyWaiting
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1637

                        #12
                        If you get no side effects on either, who the f-ck cares...

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                        • ChrisM
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 299

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                          That does it.

                          Explain what is going in here then.

                          Click the picture to see larger version:

                          Before pic: March 29th, 2013.

                          After pic: Today [4/26].

                          Before:


                          After:

                          take screen shot

                          Less than 1 month. So explain that? The pictures aren't the best quality, but it is clear as day that my vertex was damn near hair less on March 29th, and now there's hair today. That's one month buddy. So what you said is false. Same hair cut, both pics in the bathroom under the same light, same angle, same spot.

                          YOU ARE USING BOTH.. which one is working and which one isn't ? How can YOU know for sure ?
                          You were only on Fin for a few months what a little over 3 months and it is frankly bullshit to think that a drug could work on MPB that fast.

                          That said you have only been using Dutasteride for a month. One month of cycling into your system along with Minoxidil and other things I am sure. How can you say in earnest which combination was effective and which was not effective ? So you aren't lying but you can't flat out say Fin didn't work for you or doesn't work for anyone else that is the only thing that I am skeptical of.. not your results. You didn't give it a chance to work before jumping onto the next drug.

                          So you have great results.. good luck and hope you maintain them but there are guys on this site that would have you pour all kinds of concoctions on your head and shell out over 200 dollars buying digital scales, powders and Everclear. Or get hair transplants immediately for 2000 plus dollars without giving the person the facts that their internal chemistry and hormones/DHT will reduce that hair all over again and if Propecia Finasteride or Dutasteride doesn't work then you have only reset the clock to it falling out all over again in the next few years.

                          To that effect I believe in giving people the proper balanced information based on not only my experiences but the scientific facts as they have been presented to me by Spex and others far more knowledgeable that either of us.

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                          • ChrisM
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 299

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                            If you get no side effects on either, who the f-ck cares...
                            It is irresponsible and dangerous which is why someone the **** cares. You can go down a dangerous road if you want but don't encourage people to follow you and then you get to shrug your shoulders while you are ok and while they are ****ed up as a result. THAT by definition is irresponsible.

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                            • PatientlyWaiting
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1637

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ChrisM

                              YOU ARE USING BOTH.. which one is working and which one isn't ? How can YOU know for sure ?
                              But you said no product can give you results at 1 month?

                              You were only on Fin for a few months what a little over 3 months
                              Before starting Dutasteride 0.5mg/day, I was on fin 1.25mg for 3 years. Don't know where you got 3 months from.

                              and it is frankly bullshit to think that a drug could work on MPB that fast.
                              Well it just did.

                              That said you have only been using Dutasteride for a month. One month of cycling into your system along with Minoxidil and other things I am sure. How can you say in earnest which combination was effective and which was not effective ? So you aren't lying but you can't flat out say Fin didn't work for you or doesn't work for anyone else that is the only thing that I am skeptical of.. not your results. You didn't give it a chance to work before jumping onto the next drug.
                              Like I said in a previous post, in the past, I used fin 1.25mg/Rogaine and didn't get these results this fast.

                              So you have great results.. good luck and hope you maintain them but there are guys on this site that would have you pour all kinds of concoctions on your head and shell out over 200 dollars buying digital scales, powders and Everclear. Or get hair transplants immediately for 2000 plus dollars without giving the person the facts that theIR internal chemistry and hormones/DHT will reduce that hair all over again and if Propecia Finasteride or Dutasteride doesn't work then you have only reset the clock to it falling out all over again in the next few years.
                              Thank you.

                              To that effect I believe in giving people the proper balanced information based on not only my experiences but the scientific facts as they have been presented to me by Spex and others far more knowledgeable that either of us.
                              That is very caring of you. Keep at it. But I have to counter the information you are giving out, with my own experience and results, if I don't do not agree with it. What ever the scientific facts, spex or any hair loss expert says, I can only go by my own experiences and help people according to my own knowledge. With that said, Spex is a very helpful guy and I refer a lot of guys to his informative threads often.

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