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  • PatientlyWaiting
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1637

    #16
    Originally posted by ChrisM
    It is irresponsible and dangerous which is why someone the **** cares. You can go down a dangerous road if you want but don't encourage people to follow you and then you get to shrug your shoulders while you are ok and while they are ****ed up as a result. THAT by definition is irresponsible.
    Exactly. It is also irresponsible to scare some one away from these drugs without even telling them to try it. They could be missing out on possibly curing their hair loss because some one told them their d-ck will fall off.

    There's nothing wrong with suggesting hair loss sufferers FDA approved drugs that worked for you.

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    • Shan
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 366

      #17
      Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
      That does it.

      Explain what is going in here then.

      Click the picture to see larger version:

      Before pic: March 29th, 2013.

      After pic: Today [4/26].

      Before:


      After:

      take screen shot

      Less than 1 month. So explain that? The pictures aren't the best quality, but it is clear as day that my vertex was damn near hair less on March 29th, and now there's hair today. That's one month buddy. So what you said is false. Same hair cut, both pics in the bathroom under the same light, same angle, same spot.
      the first photo has flash on your bald spot and the second has no flash so does not look as bad

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      • ChrisM
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 299

        #18
        Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
        But you said no product can give you results at 1 month?



        Before starting Dutasteride 0.5mg/day, I was on fin 1.25mg for 3 years. Don't know where you got 3 months from.



        Well it just did.



        Like I said in a previous post, in the past, I used fin 1.25mg/Rogaine and didn't get these results this fast.



        Thank you.



        That is very caring of you. Keep at it. But I have to counter the information you are giving out, with my own experience and results, if I don't do not agree with it. What ever the scientific facts, spex or any hair loss expert says, I can only go by my own experiences and help people according to my own knowledge. With that said, Spex is a very helpful guy and I refer a lot of guys to his informative threads often.
        You mentioned you are currenly using both Dut at 0.5 mg and Fin at 1.25 mg now so you never answered my question how do you know what is working ? You never stopped using one for the other or the answer would be quite clear. Number two you are using Rogaine in addition regardless of what drug internally you are taking so your responsiveness albeit as you have mentioned might have been fast but that is not atypical based on scientific or clinical trials.
        One month is usually not enough for either to determine a consistent result and particularly when there is a shedding process to come in upcoming months in which case five months from now you might not be as eager to show a picture result of yourself.

        Secondly and this is being polite from the pictures the improvement you are showing is not that appreciable as your head is shaved down and your head is at a different angle in the lighting. You still have a diffuse pattern of baldness showing a horseshoe pattern of baldness at about the beginning of NW4.

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        • ChrisM
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 299

          #19
          Originally posted by Shan
          the first photo has flash on your bald spot and the second has no flash so does not look as bad
          Exactly Shan it is the same pattern of baldness with different lighting and angles. The meds did nothing substantial for him at this point. He is a Norwood 3 advancing into 4 on the scale of MPB.

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          • PatientlyWaiting
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1637

            #20
            Originally posted by Shan
            the first photo has flash on your bald spot and the second has no flash so does not look as bad
            There's no flash on either. Same BB Torch 5mp camera. The after pic is in the day time, the before pic is in the night time. I'll take one later in the night.

            The after pic should be worse, it is exposed to more light.

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            • Shan
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 366

              #21
              Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
              There's no flash on either. Same BB Torch 5mp camera. The after pic is in the day time, the before pic is in the night time. I'll take one later in the night.

              The after pic should be worse, it is exposed to more light.
              maybe there is no flash, but definite lighting on the bald spot

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              • PatientlyWaiting
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1637

                #22
                I have lots and lots of before and after pictures that show improvement, I just showed two of like 100 i've taken within a month.

                I was actually not sure if I should show my pics at all, because in the past I always see some one complaining about something in the pics of people who show their progress, like if they are liars or doing some kind of scam.

                So honestly, i'm not sure if I will stick around and help any one. Because there is too much negativity and always a group of naysayers. Showing pics or not showing pics, it's damn if you do, damn if you don't. So I will not stick around that long, I will show more pictures at 4-6 months and leave, because honestly I can not stand the negativity on the FDA approved drug son this site.

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                • PatientlyWaiting
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1637

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Shan
                  maybe there is no flash, but definite lighting on the bald spot
                  So you are telling me that you feel that without this "light", that there would be hair where there appears obvious skin with no hair?

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                  • ChrisM
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 299

                    #24
                    Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                    There's no flash on either. Same BB Torch 5mp camera. The after pic is in the day time, the before pic is in the night time. I'll take one later in the night.

                    The after pic should be worse, it is exposed to more light.
                    Its the same as Shan pointed out. Your progress as your pointed out seems dubious at best. I didn't have to discredit what you ust said.. you did that to yourself.

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                    • Shan
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 366

                      #25
                      Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                      So you are telling me that you feel that without this "light", that there would be hair where there appears obvious skin with no hair?
                      Sorry bro, not trying to be negative and putting your hair down, i was just stating that in the first photo there is an obvious light which I'm sure you can see yourself

                      Im not doubting that Dut has not worked for you.
                      Good luck with your progress

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                      • PatientlyWaiting
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1637

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ChrisM
                        Its the same as Shan pointed out. Your progress as your pointed out seems dubious at best. I didn't have to discredit what you ust said.. you did that to yourself.
                        The truth is, there will be no light showing anymore. Because the light bulb was so strong on my bare skin, now there is hair there. No matter what picture I take from now on, there will be no light bulb reflecting off of my scalp.

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                        • Widowmaker
                          Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 37

                          #27
                          Wow! Looks like Dut. is working great! Camera flash on the before pic isn't going to misrepresent things *that* much...so, clearly there is improvement. At the very least you can be more confident any current loss has been stabilized.

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                          • PatientlyWaiting
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1637

                            #28
                            I'll take one later in the night when there is no sunlight. I will try my best to get this light bulb to show right on my crown in the same spot, i'll take as many as I can. But the light bulb will no longer reflect off of the scalp because there's actually hair there now. In order to get the light bulb to reflect again, i'd have to shave that part of the crown with a zero.

                            I'm not the only one that notices though, I don't tell any one but my mother about the medications i'm taking and some how my friend who knows nothing about my meds, only knows I use toppik, he visited me a couple days ago when I had just showered and had no toppik on and he asked me why do you have the toppik in the crown only. I told him I don't have toppik at all, I just showered. He said "the back of your head looks like it has more hair".

                            But who knows though, maybe the light bulb was reflecting on my crown and he was just seeing things.

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                            • PatientlyWaiting
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1637

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Widowmaker
                              Wow! Looks like Dut. is working great! Camera flash on the before pic isn't going to misrepresent things *that* much...so, clearly there is improvement. At the very least you can be more confident any current loss has been stabilized.
                              Oh it definitely has stabilized. I went from seeing 10-20 hairs on my hand when shampooing, soon as I introduced dut, it went down to 2-3 in a week. Now if I see 1-2 it's rare.

                              But I have to be careful about saying outrageous claims like these though. They are apparently unbelievable.

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                              • Shan
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 366

                                #30
                                Bro if you are genuinely convinced that you are growing hair, and if other people are noticing it then thats great and I'm glad for you.

                                You shouldn't have to post pics here and convince people, because some people will try to put you down however saying that there does seem to be an improvement

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