Debunking HASCI´s regeneration claim - an open letter.

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by 534623
    ...asked the guy, who is thinking he knows everything.
    If I knew everything, why would I want a 50 graft test ? I just want to get to the bottom of it all. Something you clearly don't appreciate. You only want to pump hasci and get as much people to go there as possible.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by ss1980
    Arashi

    Ask them to transplant 50 2-hair grafts from 2-hair follicles, we will need someone trustworthy to supervise this one to ensure they dont get doubles from tripletes which is exactly what hasci will try to do

    I bet hasci will never wanna do it even if arashi offers them 2 000 Euros.
    Really? That's what "hasci will try to do"?

    Come on...

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  • ss1980
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    Arashi

    Ask them to transplant 50 2-hair grafts from 2-hair follicles, we will need someone trustworthy to supervise this one to ensure they dont get doubles from tripletes which is exactly what hasci will try to do

    I bet hasci will never wanna do it even if arashi offers them 2 000 Euros.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by Arashi

    Yup, will do that now, will also tell them that I'm willing to pay 1000 eur for those 50 grafts.
    What?

    You intend to spend just 1000 Euros to debunk the famous Dutch physician Dr. Coen Gho??

    Come on, "money isn't an issue" for you - so why not 10,000 Euros??

    No, you shouldn't spend 10,000 Euros for me; simply spend this money for your glory and, of course, for the poor "we" you mention so much - I mean, all the poor guys out there you worrying so much about them, respectively.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by Arashi

    What clinical study are you talking about ?
    ...asked the guy, who is thinking he knows everything.

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by gc83uk
    Email them back and tell them that you're not interested in waiting around and you need what you asked for. See what happens

    Yup, will do that now, will also tell them that I'm willing to pay 1000 eur for those 50 grafts.

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  • gc83uk
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    Originally posted by Arashi
    Yeah I think so too mate. If you have a client, not only willing to pay 1000 EUR for 50 grafts, but who wants to go through all the trouble of documenting the progress, and you have something that works, then why the hell would you tell that client to wait ? Only reason I can think of is that they're scared.
    Email them back and tell them that you're not interested in waiting around and you need what you asked for. See what happens

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by JJJJrS
    I don't know but to me it sounds they're just brushing you off. If you're willing to pay for a 50 graft test, why the delay?
    Yeah I think so too mate. If you have a client, not only willing to pay 1000 EUR for 50 grafts, but who wants to go through all the trouble of documenting the progress, and you have something that works, then why the hell would you tell that client to wait ? Only reason I can think of is that they're scared.

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by 534623
    ...or do you think they study the CLINICAL RELEVANCE of the HST technique with around 100 - 200 patients just for fun and will publish the whole outcome including each and every detail simply on hairloss forums?
    What clinical study are you talking about ? There's nothing about it on their site.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by JJJJrS

    If that were the case, those would be incredible results, especially combined with the scarless aspect.

    Any net gain of hair is enormous. You can always work on the technical issues to improve consistency.

    I think it's frustrating though, that we still have no concrete answers and HASCI still behaves so secretive about their procedure, even to the same patients that invested a lot, both financially and emotionally, to get a procedure done.
    Have you ever tried yourself to find an accurate answer for your observation?

    Dr. Gho and the whole HSCI staff has the concrete answers already - at least concerning the "clinical relevance" of the HST technique ...


    ...or do you think they study the CLINICAL RELEVANCE of the HST technique with around 100 - 200 patients just for fun and will publish the whole outcome including each and every detail simply on hairloss forums?
    If they would do the latter, practically every serious medical journal wouldn't publish their study anymore, because doing so, would interfere with the common publication politics.

    All I can tell you guys, when you look at the column on the left side in the study snippet above, I guess almost every HST patient will admit, ALL mentioned objectives are fully justified - besides PARTIALLY point 3).

    And especially concerning point 3), I think smart guys already know the accurate answer too - no?

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by JJJJrS
    I don't know but to me it sounds they're just brushing you off. If you're willing to pay for a 50 graft test, why the delay?
    Of course, it's the fear that Arashi could debunk them.

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  • JJJJrS
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    Originally posted by Arashi
    Ok, I got news from HASCI ! They've told me that dr Gho is working on something for all of the fora's. Not more info at this time, but obviously they want to do something about the lack of info/proof and are working on something, not sure what that will be or when it will be ready ...

    Also unclear at that moment what this means for my request for a 50 graft test on me, but they told me to wait ...
    I don't know but to me it sounds they're just brushing you off. If you're willing to pay for a 50 graft test, why the delay?

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  • caddarik79
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    Interesting Arashi, I have to say, I'm super waiting for this.
    I understand that they don't want to spend their times on forums, but after so much bashing, they need to react and reconfirm their work.

    If 85% is proven, I book in the very coming months.

    I also hope they keep on working on hair multiplication... I would not ming bridging with another one or two until they have THE ultimate surgical not super invasive technique!!!

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  • Arashi
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    Ok, I got news from HASCI ! They've told me that dr Gho is working on something for all of the fora's. Not more info at this time, but obviously they want to do something about the lack of info/proof and are working on something, not sure what that will be or when it will be ready ...

    Also unclear at that moment what this means for my request for a 50 graft test on me, but they told me to wait ...

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by cocacola
    and i think some hairs that havent fell of start to pop out.
    Regrowth starts with very thin hairs which become thicker over the course of a few months. If you're 4 months out you should have some already. The best way to spot it is to shoot some photo's and then zoom in, cause those thin hairs are very difficult to see with the naked eye at first.

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