Dr Nigam agrees to doubling slick NW6/NW7

[gc83uk]

GC, didnt you want lower hairline?
You could do it, you are the only one who knows how to take good photos

alternatively we can get someone else but I doubt their photographic skills, remember we need clear shots of donor and rcepient.

Haha, yea but I keep hacking my donor every 5 mins.

I reckon hellouser would be awesome at taking photos, he would make me look like a novice!

[hellouser]

I reckon you will have a taker within 24 hours. Might be worth a new thread. I don't think Didi wants it, nor Hellouser, one of you 3 would be perfect though.

I'd go if I could get the time off from work :/

[JDW]

What is the procedure that will be tested out and number of grafts etc? small area and then document the recipient and donor?

[gc83uk]

What is the procedure that will be tested out and number of grafts etc? small area and then document the recipient and donor?

If I understand your question properly, we are looking for someone who is willing to have ONLY 50 grafts, nothing more, nothing less taken from their donor and implanted in a balding area with Dr Nigam.

Arashi is willing to cover the costs.

Obviously this person would need to be known to us all on the forums and of course know how to take good clear photos.

The test procedure should be whatever test can yield the best results, according to Dr Nigam this is the Denovo procedure.

If this works as Dr Nigam claims and assuming the average number of hairs extracted per FU from the donor is 2 hairs, then the recipient will yield 200 hairs.
From memory Dr Nigam claims the donor can manage a 60% regeneration rate, so I would expect the patient to lose 40 out of the 100 hairs (50 x 2FU) from the donor.

In summary the patient begins with 100 hairs and ends up with 260 hairs, net gain of 160 hairs.

[tom vercetti]

Hi, the test Im speaking about will be done at mwamba clinic soon. But for that protocol from nigam need to be known. Firs they need to sign partnership together, so please all be patient and dont disturb them.

This time we want a full statistic test with true follow of 50 graft per person with tatoo.

I will ask for my pics and will post it when i get it no worries.

From now its just about waiting.. no need to travel or whatever more, just be patient

[JDW]

If I understand your question properly, we are looking for someone who is willing to have ONLY 50 grafts, nothing more, nothing less taken from their donor and implanted in a balding area with Dr Nigam.

Arashi is willing to cover the costs.

Obviously this person would need to be known to us all on the forums and of course know how to take good clear photos.

The test procedure should be whatever test can yield the best results, according to Dr Nigam this is the Denovo procedure.

If this works as Dr Nigam claims and assuming the average number of hairs extracted per FU from the donor is 2 hairs, then the recipient will yield 200 hairs.
From memory Dr Nigam claims the donor can manage a 60% regeneration rate, so I would expect the patient to lose 40 out of the 100 hairs (50 x 2FU) from the donor.

In summary the patient begins with 100 hairs and ends up with 260 hairs, net gain of 160 hairs.

That's exactly what I was asking, thanks. Would the donor need to be shaved in the person and what if they were on meds?

Also what happened to working with Thane or the others that were going to be documented?

[gc83uk]

Hi, the test Im speaking about will be done at mwamba clinic soon. But for that protocol from nigam need to be known. Firs they need to sign partnership together, so please all be patient and dont disturb them.

This time we want a full statistic test with true follow of 50 graft per person with tatoo.

I will ask for my pics and will post it when i get it no worries.

From now its just about waiting.. no need to travel or whatever more, just be patient

Tom glad to hear about the photos.

But why wait until February for Mwamba to finish his testing when we can also send someone from the forums to Dr Nigam?

As a side note, it would actually be interesting to compare the results between Mwamba and Nigam.

[tom vercetti]

That's exactly what I was asking, thanks. Would the donor need to be shaved in the person and what if they were on meds?

Also what happened to working with Thane or the others that were going to be documented?

thats the beauty with mwamba, donor dont need to be shaved.. BUT for our case study i think we should to have a good quality pics and tatoo to follow

I dont know about the others.. only this should be follow from now.

[tom vercetti]

Tom glad to hear about the photos.

But why wait until February for Mwamba to finish his testing when we can also send someone from the forums to Dr Nigam?

As a side note, it would actually be interesting to compare the results between Mwamba and Nigam.

maybe before february.. i just prefer see it large.. I just hope people will not start to disturb again because of me mwamba at phone for that


yes you can send someone from the forum if he is rich and dont care about airplane for exemple. But i dont see the point as we will start an official test soon with mwamba.. here in europe..

[gc83uk]

That's exactly what I was asking, thanks. Would the donor need to be shaved in the person and what if they were on meds?

Also what happened to working with Thane or the others that were going to be documented?

I doubt being on meds would make any difference, I suppose as long as the patient didn't alter their current regime then it would be fine.

The patient would need to be able to shave the 50 graft area in their donor for the procedure and again during the following weeks and months to monitor regrowth.

As for the recipient, this area would also need to be visible, those implanted 100 bisected grafts would need to be counted and analysed from implantation, around the 3 month mark, 6 month mark and maybe 9 month mark. By then it should be clear.

From what I can gather, this Thane bloke didn't like the idea of having a hair transplant, it didn't interest him. I'm surprised a financial incentive wasn't offered.

However there is another patient called Joshi, who is just as bald as Thane, so hopefully we'll have a new case to monitor in the next couple of weeks.

[JDW]

If shaving the donor wasn't compulsory and the donor area could still be evaluated I'd possibly be up for it...I take pro photos / videos so have the ideal lenses.
Trying to think if the person could have the grafts put in just in front of the hairline so they could be monitored that way?

[gc83uk]

maybe before february.. i just prefer see it large.. I just hope people will not start to disturb again because of me mwamba at phone for that


yes you can send someone from the forum if he is rich and dont care about airplane for exemple. But i dont see the point as we will start an official test soon with mwamba.. here in europe..

There is no harm running dual tests.

Let me ask you a question, if Mwamba says he thinks it doesn't work, then what will you do?

Whilst at the same time Nigam is saying YES it works. Will you go back to Nigam or will you listen to Mwamba? Come February this might be the reality and then we have lost another 6 months because we didn't organise our own test with Nigam. We should have done it 6 months ago!

[gc83uk]

If shaving the donor wasn't compulsory and the donor area could still be evaluated I'd possibly be up for it...I take pro photos / videos so have the ideal lenses.
Trying to think if the person could have the grafts put in just in front of the hairline so they could be monitored that way?

The area shaved would be relatively small, maybe say 4cm by 2cm. How do you have your hair?

The grafts could be put in the hairline, but they would have to be visible. Are you receeding at the front? What NW are you?

[tom vercetti]

There is no harm running dual tests.

Let me ask you a question, if Mwamba says he thinks it doesn't work, then what will you do?

Whilst at the same time Nigam is saying YES it works. Will you go back to Nigam or will you listen to Mwamba?

there is no way one say yes and the other say no. We will test on many patient, different method on same patient also. We want to count and see what give the best regrowth at donor and recipient.

If it doesnt work, then it doesnt work, i want a scientific approach there. But for now, from what we have counted it seems i have exact same density from my before to my after surgery in the 4 area strips counted per cm²...

[tom vercetti]

The area shaved would be relatively small, maybe say 4cm by 2cm. How do you have your hair?

The grafts could be put in the hairline, but they would have to be visible. Are you receeding at the front? What NW are you?

we would maybe need a tatoo at recipient (a very small point..) but taking into account usually recipient is not a 100% full regrowth even if mwamba is very good for that.