Dr Nigam agrees to doubling slick NW6/NW7

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  • gc83uk
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1339

    Dr Nigam agrees to doubling slick NW6/NW7

    As recently discussed in another thread, I contacted Dr Nigam suggesting we should find an NW7 SLICK bald, someone local from Mumbai. Take the maximum amount of grafts from donor, 5000 was suggested. If it works the donor will regenerate in full.

    Repeat as above 6 months later.

    His response below:

    Gaz,
    This is what the steps would be:
    1) By 15th of Sept. 2013, I will recruit 5 sleek bald NW6/ NW7 candidates, offer them free treatments, the candidates have to be living near my clinic and medically fit.

    2) Why I am choosing 5 is that if 1 or 2 disappear, we will still have other cases to follow.

    3) I'll be performing a combination of
    a) In-vitro hair doubling
    b) In-vivo hair doubling
    c) De-novo doubling
    on these volunteers.

    4) I will try to extract maximum graft from the donor possible in these cases, approximately 4000-7000 grafts in first sessions of 3-5 days and repeat the same after approximate 6 months.

    5) I will be providing you before pictures of the volunteers by 15th September. Then, on the day of the procedure, I will mail you the shaved pictures and everyday photos after the session with videos , also with the patient reading the newspaper to confirm the date of the procedure, also single shot video of the whole scalp. If any of the photos are not upto the mark, you have to immediately mail me the same so that I can retake the pictures. Rest all the steps will be followed as you mentioned in the mail.

    6) Why 15th Sept :
    a) Mwamba with his technicians and a test patient is coming with Tom on 1st week of September. I'll be occupied with them. I'll need some time to find and recruit the right volunteers.

    Please, let the critics know:
    1) That we should work together as you said in the mail. Do not isolate me separately, we are all on the same boat. I am one like you all with an advantage of being of a doctor with a clinic,
    2) Have a biotech lab,
    3) Located at only place in the world which is not yet passed any law on stem cell research and therapy I have accessed to major published studies in doubling by the top researchers in the world, in stem cell hair multiplication, 3D speroids and micro-follicle creation in the lab.

    I can mail and visit few leading researchers in the world and their labs to rectify and improve to ultimately reach near to the cure.

    But remember, we have only 1 or 2 years before Indian Parliament also passes law regulating stem-cell research and therapy.

    Need to share lot of other things with you including few early result pics of sleek, bald NW6/7 on whom I have already done first session of doubling in my next mail.

    Regards,
    Dr.Nigam.
  • Arashi
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 3888

    #2
    Nigams surely knows how to get our hopes up, every time. If he's REALLY willing to do this and is really going to do it like the way proposed, shooting perfect professional pictures of the shaven donor ... Then this could finally yield what we all are looking for.

    I can't help but feeling some hope here again. But will he let us all down AGAIN ? We'll see...

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    • gc83uk
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1339

      #3
      Originally posted by Arashi
      Nigams surely knows how to get our hopes up, every time. If he's REALLY willing to do this and is really going to do it like the way proposed, shooting perfect professional pictures of the shaven donor ... Then this could finally yield what we all are looking for.

      I can't help but feeling some hope here again. But will he let us all down AGAIN ? We'll see...
      Well I know what you mean, but try and be optimistic.

      If you can think of any suggestions / changes to the current idea, then chip in below. Personally I hate seeing those microscopic images, showing 1 graft per photo. I rather just see decent photos which capture e.g grafts in perfect focus.

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        #4
        Oh, and last step: he should shave the whole scalp again, to about 5 mm, after the final results after 2 procedures. This is very important because it's the only way to verify the results. If the hairs are long it's impossible to do any verification and even worse, he could use concealer.

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        • gc83uk
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1339

          #5
          Originally posted by Arashi
          Oh, and last step: he should shave the whole scalp again, to about 5 mm, after the final results after 2 procedures. This is very important because it's the only way to verify the results. If the hairs are long it's impossible to do any verification and even worse, he could use concealer.
          Agreed.

          I'd want him to do this after the 1st procedure too. There is a chance that none of these guys will have a 2nd procedure, but if one of those 5 managed e.g 7000 grafts, that would be quite telling in itself!

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            #6
            Originally posted by gc83uk
            Personally I hate seeing those microscopic images, showing 1 graft per photo. I rather just see decent photos which capture e.g grafts in perfect focus.
            Yeah these microscopic images are USELESS. We don't want any of those this time. Just macro pictures but this time in MUCH better detail than the ones he shot of Tom's case. We really need to be able to count hairs and in Tom's case this was barely possible.

            What I'd suggest is to place some ink spots on several places of the shaved donor before shooting the pictures. This way you could divide the donor in for example 5 pieces (or more if needed) and easily link them together to form 1 complete image of the donor, in good enough detail to see every single graft and tell how many hairs there are.

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            • didi
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1360

              #7
              Sounds promising, to reduce chance of patient disappearing how about paying test subjects each time they come to see him in his office, once every 3 months is good enough.

              if they don't come back it means they are NOT happy...No single NW7 who is IN THE RIGHT MIND would turn down FREE doubling and $$ if it works? Of course they will want to come back for more



              It will be easy to get 5 NW7s, advertise in local papers,craigslist/gumtree

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              • gc83uk
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1339

                #8
                Originally posted by didi
                Sounds promising, to reduce chance of patient disappearing how about paying test subjects each time they come to see him in his office, once every 3 months is good enough.

                if they don't come back it means they are NOT happy...No single NW7 who is IN THE RIGHT MIND would turn down FREE doubling and $$ if it works? Of course they will want to come back for more



                It will be easy to get 5 NW7s, advertise in local papers,craigslist/gumtree
                I suggest this, but he seems to rather get more patients. Strange I know.

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gc83uk
                  I suggest this, but he seems to rather get more patients. Strange I know.
                  Yeah I'd also vote for paying them money instead of getting 5. Cause if he'd get 5 he could just let go of the 2 worst results and tell us they never returned. But oh well, the 3 cases left are still worth a lot I guess.

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2691

                    #10
                    Atleast we dont need that "Veca" guy who was using unethical fear tactics on us, you wouldnt do that with people who suffer with other diseases so dont do it with us!!!!!!!!!

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                    • Arashi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3888

                      #11
                      Also what really bothered me in Tom's case is that he shaved the donor just TOO much. This made counting hairs also extremely hard. I'd suggest to tell him to have the hairs 2 mm longer, at least for the photo's. He doesn't seem to be able to figure stuff like this out himself, so I guess we'll just need to tell him to do this.

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                      • One
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 132

                        #12
                        Gc to remind him that dr nigam photos and videos to be only available by Full HD with a professional machine







                        Same light, the same angle, the same length. Absolutely nothing suspicious.

                        If not again becomes useless.

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                        • didi
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1360

                          #13
                          5 patients is fine and he can pay 200 USD to each of them every 3 months,



                          That's monthly salary in india, peanuts for dr nigam


                          That will be $1000 every 3 months, $4000 all up after 1 year/4 visits



                          I guarantee local nw7 will be happy with this deal and will not flake...unless they get hit by bus or get crappy results

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                          • didi
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1360

                            #14
                            We want guys like this dude


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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              #15
                              Yeah of course photo's need to be shot by a real professional, using DSLR and macro lense. If he's going to mess this case up AGAIN with lousy pictures ... He'd just better never return EVER again to these forums.

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