HST reply - claims of 6-8 HSTs

[sausage]

The whole back and side hairs would not be needed, maybe only in very extreme cases......

Surgeons could go beyond the number of grafts they would normally extract....

As a grade 0 on the back and sides - I feel would work fine with thin hair.

There is always the option of getting SMP into the back and sides to 'thicken' it up.

I think surgeons should be more outgoing if a patient comes to them with this idea.

[Phatalis]

Assuming it is scarless I prolly will transplant all the sideburns and lower half of the back horseshoe because they are the hair I don't mind losing if they don't regenerate. I might use my facial hair too, since I shave anyways. I think my facial hair alone is enough for whole crown lol, side burn and lower half horseshoe can be used for hairline and middle.

this is what im saying. if done properly i think this would look LEAGUES beyond better than a ****ing horseshoe

[Cookie]

Assuming it is scarless I prolly will transplant all the sideburns and lower half of the back horseshoe because they are the hair I don't mind losing if they don't regenerate. I might use my facial hair too, since I shave anyways. I think my facial hair alone is enough for whole crown lol, side burn and lower half horseshoe can be used for hairline and middle.

[didi]

you could do that and then do SMP on the sides, in theory.

common guys, compete horseshoe reversal is a bit extreme, we are talking abt 25 000+ grafts for NW6..but what if we take 12 000 and transplant them on the top, leaving 12-13 000 on the sides...

12 000 grafts will transform anybody and imo that's respectable coverage while still having hair on sides and back that can be shaved to the bone or a few mm...


HST would take lot of time and money but I think dr nigam can achieve that( regardless if he really doubles or not), as long as he can leave no white dots..even if he is splitting grafts, dr nigam can remove 50% of horseshoe and basically re-distribute hair all over the scalp...of course, if he can double its a bonus...dr nigam is by far the cheapest


Dr Wesley with his pilofocus will be able to do just that..

why do we need 25 000 grafts on sides/back??... IM and people that have strip scar cant really shave down but for the rest of us I think it is a real option

[FearTheLoss]

you could do that and then do SMP on the sides, in theory.

[Arashi]

Ha never thought of that. Since hst is scarless why care about donor depletion? Just transplant everything up top and shave the sides with a nice tight 0 fade

Nah it wouldn't look like the guy in the picture, he obviously has hair on the sides. Imagine just (pink) skin and only hair on topic. I think it would look really stupid. Maybe slightly less stupid than the horseshoe, but still stupid.

[greatjob!]

If I had enough money, I will get transplant every year to achieve a reversed horseshoe hairstyle. Don't care if the horseshoe don't regenerate since I would shave it like basketball players.

Ha never thought of that. Since hst is scarless why care about donor depletion? Just transplant everything up top and shave the sides with a nice tight 0 fade

[Cookie]

If I had enough money, I will get transplant every year to achieve a reversed horseshoe hairstyle. Don't care if the horseshoe don't regenerate since I would shave it like basketball players.

[clarence]

The idea of transplanting hair from the donor to the recipient, and then re-transplanting that hair back into the donor doesn't really make much sense to me, kind of robbing Peter to pay Paul. If you experience thinning in the donor from hst, you will surely experience thinning extracting from the recipient area, and ultimately I would expect you would receive no net gain in the end

I was NOT directly pushing the idea of re-transplanting hair back into the donor. That is a slightly different subject (e. g. we would have to discuss, if re-transplanting hairs back into the donor would carry any benefit whatsoever over a basic donor-to-donor transplant, with the goal of filling in the gaps left by previous procedures)

So let's say you have slick bald temples and/or hairline, and you choose to transplant hair there first. 50 cm2/square density. Then at a later stage in life, you need/want to fill in the crown as well. Can your donor take that much thinning, which you need to fill in the crown, or do you take some of the grafts from the transplanted zone as well?

Does it actually matter, numbers-wise, with HST whether hairs harvested include hairs which have once been previously transplanted into the recipient? I think it all comes down to this question.

[gc83uk]

The idea of transplanting hair from the donor to the recipient, and then re-transplanting that hair back into the donor doesn't really make much sense to me, kind of robbing Peter to pay Paul. If you experience thinning in the donor from hst, you will surely experience thinning extracting from the recipient area, and ultimately I would expect you would receive no net gain in the end

I think the reason for the question is to coax Hasci into confirming/denying that a HST graft can be re extracted and multiplied.

Theoretically you could just extract other donor hairs and place those into the thinning areas of your donor without even having to touch the usual recipient area.

[greatjob!]

The idea of transplanting hair from the donor to the recipient, and then re-transplanting that hair back into the donor doesn't really make much sense to me, kind of robbing Peter to pay Paul. If you experience thinning in the donor from hst, you will surely experience thinning extracting from the recipient area, and ultimately I would expect you would receive no net gain in the end

[clarence]

What isn't possible is paying for 10 HSTs!!!

We just need some info about hair harvested from transplanted zones. Can be relevant already when having your second HST?

[Kiwi]

What is possible hopefully are copy cat HST surgčons that can refine this and do more for less. Nigram better be legit!!!

[Kiwi]

So after having a number of procedures, you start seeing "visible loss in density". And that pulls us again to the yet-unanswered question of using transplanted hairs as new donor hairs:

Those with a thick donor and a good regeneration rate will be eligible for 6-8 HSTs. But those who re-extract some of the newly implanted hairs as donor for future procedures will surely be fine even after 8-10 or more HSTs. Or is HASCI going to tell me this is not possible?

What isn't possible is paying for 10 HSTs!!!

[clarence]

I was asking a similar question a few days back, I'll ask Hasci if it's possible and post the answer here as soon as they get back to me.

Well I've been drilling the forum with this question almost since post 1, and some others are asking it as well (ie. thread named "extracting donor from a recipient work?), so clarification would help to keep us from derailing discussion into this subject too often...