The 50 Graft Test Procedure

[Arashi]

Um, I'd say 50 would be on the low end. You don't take statistics based on low numbers.

The 250 grafts is great, gives us a much better picture.

Exactly. 250 hair is statistically much more significant than just 50 hairs. Variance in 50 hairs is a lot higher.

[Arashi]

I've been thinking about it and honestly I expect only 1 answer from Kristel. Something along the lines of "ALL hairs without a bulb in the petridish will grow back and 80% of the hairs WITH bulb will grow back as well". That's pretty much what they always claimed. Yeah ok, they were talking about grafts instead of hairs but I just can't believe they're going to try to hide behind that.

We'll see, but the more I think about it, the more I figure it has to be something like this.

[clarence]

First, he was thought HASCI wont be able to find 50 usable grafts? How accurate was that

Oh he really did, didid he, didi?

Of course there are, in general, still losts of hairs/grafts in your donor area


but the "tricky environment" itself could be somewhat problematic concerning

- the influence on the regeneration rate of HST extractions;
- rather problematic to observe/monitor/document the extractions sites,

IF Kristel is forced to extract the grafts everywhere in a bigger area, instead just within a rather small 2-3 cm² area.

[hellouser]

50 grafts had to be enough. why did they harvest more then that?
MISSION FAILED... one more time

Um, I'd say 50 would be on the low end. You don't take statistics based on low numbers.

The 250 grafts is great, gives us a much better picture.

[elgorvanelsinki]

50 grafts had to be enough. why did they harvest more then that?
MISSION FAILED... one more time

[gc83uk]

Im worried abt iron man..hope he doesnt hang himself..

even star like him is running out of explanations abt petri...

First, he was thought HASCI wont be able to find 50 usable grafts? How accurate was that

Second, all these extra hairs in petri are just telogen hairs..70% of them..

Iron man -for president!!

lol, to be honest I reckon Iron Man thinks we are all idiots who doesn't know anything and he is the only normal person here.

[didi]

Im worried abt iron man..hope he doesnt hang himself..

even star like him is running out of explanations abt petri...

First, he was thought HASCI wont be able to find 50 usable grafts? How accurate was that

Second, all these extra hairs in petri are just telogen hairs..70% of them..

Iron man -for president!!

[Arashi]

What exactly did you ask kristel?

Well, what I asked her in my first mail, I wrote a few pages back in this thread. She didn't seem to understand what I was saying, maybe I didn't express myself correctly.

What I did then in my 2nd mail, I've cut out the 2 'groups' of grafts you see slightly left above the '1' number in the petridish picture. I've sent her that cut out picture and asked if she could explain what we're seeing there. I said, to me it looks like there are only 2 usable grafts there, since we see only 2 bulbs, one in 1 each group. However there seem to be at least 6 hairs there. How is this possible and how would you explain this ?

I still think she'll has an explanation that makes sense. Like said I really can't imagine that it really turns out that hair regrowth is only 40%-45% (or possibly even worse, if not all hairs grow in recipient).

Anyway, really out of here for now, back later for more

[gc83uk]

they gonan tell you there are 200 extracted grafts = 250 hairs...

50 doubles, 150 singles....

the BIG question is..why singles look like doubles?

I think he has asked, basically why is there 500 hairs in the petri? Some kind of explanation on what has been extracted in terms of hairs and what we can expect to grow in the recipient etc

[gc83uk]

I've edited my post, dont think my regrowth calc was correct. Gotta hit the gym now, back later here for more

Yea I noticed lol! I actually think it was pretty much correct, bit late for the gym innit?

[didi]

they gonan tell you there are 200 extracted grafts = 250 hairs...

50 doubles, 150 singles....

the BIG question is..why singles look like doubles?

[didi]

What exactly did you ask kristel?

[gc83uk]

But again, maybe we're just seeing something wrong. I just cant imagine that Kristel will say all of a sudden "AAAAH you guys were talking about HAIR regrowth in stead of graft regrowth. yeah sure that's about 50% less" LOL.

She seemed very confident about all this. I'm waiting for her answer to hear what she has to say on all this.

I know mate, it would be a complete joke if that happens. At least we will actually get some answers from Kristel followed by conclusive photographic answers. Won't be long now.

[Arashi]

I've edited my post, dont think my regrowth calc was correct. Gotta hit the gym now, back later here for more

[Arashi]

But again, maybe we're just seeing something wrong. I just cant imagine that Kristel will say all of a sudden "AAAAH you guys were talking about HAIR regrowth in stead of graft regrowth. yeah sure that's about 50% less" LOL.

She seemed very confident about all this. I'm waiting for her answer to hear what she has to say on all this.