The 50 Graft Test Procedure

[Arashi]

It's also worth noting that you wouldn't have 100% yield in FUE anyway.

This is a very interesting point though. One of the main arguments (old school people like Spex) will bring up in favour of FUT over FUE is that the yields of FUT are much better. We can finally see now what the yield with HST will be !! Very very excited to find out !

[Arashi]

LOL FUE is sooo different, but if you were doing FUE with the same size punch...

...then the difference with FUE is, if you have 450 hairs in the petri dish of which 200 were transected, you would get 200 transected hairs regrowing in the donor, but you would get 0 hairs regrowing from the other 250 hairs in the donor.

Difference is FUE with small punch you will lose 250 hairs in the donor vs HST you will lose only 50 hairs.

If you were doing FUE with a larger punch, you would probably be able to extract all 400 hairs, but you ain't getting any regrowth of those 400 in the donor, that's for sure. So your just moving 400 from A to B with no net gain. It's also worth noting that you wouldn't have 100% yield in FUE anyway.

Hehe, it really isn't that hard to understand, right ? But will Didi understand ? I still have my doubts ...

[gc83uk]

"During this extraction some skin plus transected hairs come along'

that is very interesting, 150 extra hairs isnt really 'some'.

as i predicted...total wont exceed what we see in petri...

Out of the 250 hairs, 200 will grow back. So James will lose about 50 hairs in donor and will gain 250 in recipient.

How is this different than FUE?...if you saw 450 hairs in petri extracted by fue..
you would expect 450 in recipient right? and 0 in donor area....total 450....same as HST

LOL FUE is sooo different, but if you were doing FUE with the same size punch...

...then the difference with FUE is, if you have 450 hairs in the petri dish of which 200 were transected, you would get 200 transected hairs regrowing in the donor, but you would get 0 hairs regrowing from the other 250 hairs in the donor.

Difference is FUE with small punch you will lose 250 hairs in the donor vs HST you will lose only 50 hairs.

If you were doing FUE with a larger punch, you would probably be able to extract all 400 hairs all in tact with bulbs, but you ain't getting any regrowth of those 400 in the donor, that's for sure. So your just moving 400 from A to B with no net gain. It's also worth noting that you wouldn't have 100% yield in FUE anyway.

[Arashi]

"During this extraction some skin plus transected hairs come along'

that is very interesting, 150 extra hairs isnt really 'some'.

as i predicted...total wont exceed what we see in petri...

Out of the 250 hairs, 200 will grow back. So James will lose about 50 hairs in donor and will gain 250 in recipient.

How is this different than FUE?...if you saw 450 hairs in petri extracted by fue..
you would expect 450 in recipient right? and 0 in donor area....total 450....same as HST

Didi, please. Stop trolling. You are not serious here, right ? If James would have undergone FUE, only 150 hairs would grow back in Donor (because the follicle never got extracted) and he would have lost 250 hairs: the 250 that got transplanted. However with HST, 200 out of those 250 transplanted hairs will grow back and James will have 200 more hairs now than he would have if he had done FUE.

[didi]

"During this extraction some skin plus transected hairs come along'

that is very interesting, 150 extra hairs isnt really 'some'.

as i predicted...total wont exceed what we see in petri...

Out of the 250 hairs, 200 will grow back. So James will lose about 50 hairs in donor and will gain 250 in recipient.

How is this different than FUE?...if you saw 450 hairs in petri extracted by fue..
you would expect 450 in recipient right? and 0 in donor area....total 450....same as HST

[Arashi]

I think everything is ok here.

The only problem now is getting good pictures.

I wonder how much faster the transected hair grows than the actual regrowth hair? That's a dam good question if I don't mind saying so myself.

We may have 150 transected hairs coming through the extraction zones within a couple of days and the other Genuine regrowth hairs over the coming 14 days. Any thoughts on that?

Yeah, this is certainly a good question. No thoughts on that, we're going to witness that in the next few weeks

[gc83uk]

I think everything is ok here.

The only problem now is getting good pictures.

I wonder how much faster the transected hair grows than the actual regrowth hair? That's a dam good question if I don't mind saying so myself.

We may have 150 transected hairs coming through the extraction zones within a couple of days and the other Genuine regrowth hairs over the coming 14 days. Any thoughts on that?

[Arashi]

Again, in other words, 350 out of 400 hairs should grow back. Thus James will lose about 50 hairs in donor. However he's expected to get 250 new hairs in recipient. This is what they've always claimed and Kristel is confident this is going to happen here too.

[Arashi]

let's say we find 400 hairs in the petridish. 250 hairs are usuable according to HASCI

How did we end up with 400 hairs if there is suppossed to be only 250 in petri...
where did they come from?

Were these hairs originaly singles or?

At this point I'm really not sure if you're just trolling here or just as stupid IM says you are ...

Where did the hairs come from ? 200 grafts got extracted. 150 singles, 50 doubles, so 250 hairs ready for transplant. During this extraction some skin plus transected hairs come along. You can just forget about those: since the whole graft for these hairs stays UNTOUCHED in the donor, these hairs will grow 100% back. Out of the 250 hairs, 200 will grow back. So James will lose about 50 hairs in donor and will gain 250 in recipient.

[didi]

"let's say we find 400 hairs in the petridish. 250 hairs are usuable according to HASCI"

How did we end up with 400 hairs if there is suppossed to be only 250 in petri...
where did they come from?

Were these hairs originaly singles or?

[Arashi]

arashi

hst says 80% regeneration in DONOR
100% or close to it in RECIPIENT

Exactly. And this is what Kristel expects to happen. What part of my previous posts didn't you understand exactly ?

[didi]

arashi

hst says 80% regeneration in DONOR
100% or close to it in RECIPIENT

[Arashi]

And she also sent me this picture regarding the 3 hair graft issue. Everybody has different hair, some have thin, some have thick and James is lucky to have very thick hair. Downside is of course that thick hair like that is difficult to extract with a small drill when it comes to a cluster of 3 hairs. She mailed me this photo to show how small the extraction sites are compared to 3 hair clusters:

http://picturepush.com/public/12656042

[didi]

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" When calculating the donor regeneration, we should reference this with the 400-450 extracted. When calculating the recipient yield, we should reference this with the 250 usable grafts."


if 450 hairs got extracted why would you expect 450 in donor and 250 in recipient?
SAme amount should be expected on boths sides...
HST promisses to double whatever amount is extracted from donor....

450 or whatever number of hairs was extracted should grow in donor and recipient..900 all up...


HASCI will say no way, 250 was extracted...whcih translates to 250 will grow in recipient and 200 in donor.

[Arashi]

Will they even put these unusable grafts/hairs in the recipient though?

There are no 'unsuable' grafts. Only grafts + transected hairs (dead material). Anyway I think everybody understands it now, right ?