All Hope is Not Lost, After All

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Androgenetic alopecia is probably best described as a genetic defect, not a disease. All of us here have an idiot gene that tells our hair to stop growing despite the fact that we need it, for example as protection from the sun.

For the same reason, like any genetic defect, it is very hard to treat. You can fight the symptoms, but not the cause. That is why a cure has been difficult to find and why Histogen could be the one.

[TanCas]

What technically is it then if not a disease??

What "is" balding? It's something that happens. Call it a "condition," if you wish, but it's no more a disease than are, say, aging or experiencing an increase in height during adolescence. I understand it can have psychological implications, but hairloss is not a disease; no one would be right to say otherwise.

There are a ton of diseases i would trade baldness for.

That's either meaningless (the diseases for which you'd trade would have little or no limiting effect on your life), thoughtless (you're upset you're balding, and are just saying things, not considering what those things are), or terribly callous (a number of ill people, let alone those who're terminally sick, would be rightly appalled by such a comment). Losing one's hair sucks, and if the process can be reversed, great; balding isn't akin to a serious physical illness, though, and I feel we ought to be more intelligent about how we understand and discuss its occurrence.

[gmonasco]

it is natural as in "not chemically-drug induced" but it is not natural as in "normal" Shall we agree?

I agree that manifesting MPB relatively early in life (i.e., in one's teens or early 20s) isn't the norm, but that doesn't make MPB a "disease," as claimed earlier in this thread.

[crashul]

Sure it can. Everybody ages at different rates -- just as some men start losing their hair early in life, others keep full heads of hair into middle age and beyond.

ok, gmonasco, it is natural as in "not chemically-drug induced" but it is not natural as in "normal"

Shall we agree?

[gmonasco]

Well it can't be all that "natural" if it happens at 16 now, can it?

Sure it can. Everybody ages at different rates -- just as some men start losing their hair early in life, others keep full heads of hair into middle age and beyond.

[KeepTheHair]

There are a ton of diseases i would trade baldness for.

[mlao]

lets see what happens.

[crashul]

Part of the natural aging process, like diminished hearing, gray hair and wrinkled skin.

Well it can't be all that "natural" if it happens at 16 now, can it? I mean at that age you are still in development.

[gmonasco]

What technically is it then if not a disease??

Part of the natural aging process, like diminished hearing, gray hair and wrinkled skin.

[Phatalis]

Of course, there are far larger medical problems in existence than male pattern baldness (I hate when this is called a "disease"), but it would be great if a potent, safe, affordable treatment became available within five years (i.e., by 2015). If Histogen is what this treatment will be called, so be it. For those who're able to be comfortable being bald, fantastic; yet, there are a large number who're very uncomfortable, and, for them, Histogen's finally becoming the long-sought "magic bullet" would be wonderful (of course, there are few, if any, such devices, so let's say Histogen would be wonderful even if it benefited from a little help from what's already out there — though cutting out drugs would be terrific).

What technically is it then if not a disease??

[TanCas]

Of course, there are far larger medical problems in existence than male pattern baldness (I hate when this is called a "disease"), but it would be great if a potent, safe, affordable treatment became available within five years (i.e., by 2015). If Histogen is what this treatment will be called, so be it. For those who're able to be comfortable being bald, fantastic; yet, there are a large number who're very uncomfortable, and, for them, Histogen's finally becoming the long-sought "magic bullet" would be wonderful (of course, there are few, if any, such devices, so let's say Histogen would be wonderful even if it benefited from a little help from what's already out there — though cutting out drugs would be terrific).

[crashul]

I read an article on BaldingBlog that India has developed cloning. has any one heard or read more about this? i have been searching the net and just finding a couple of things...

i can't find much. Nothing on their clinic's site on hair cloning. So they're probably just bluffing.

[krauss]

Cloning

I read an article on BaldingBlog that India has developed cloning. has any one heard or read more about this? i have been searching the net and just finding a couple of things...

[KeepTheHair]

I would tell you through email but I won't say on here.

I will say that it is a third world country.

This is my fake email williamsshaun@live.com if you want to drop me an email or not that's cool lol. But I won't give out my real identity and location here. Since I believe it will be very easy for people to link my age and country and then know who I am if they know me. Chances are slim. But it is just a precaution.

I think enough people care about baldness that it would spread reasonable fast. Rich people care. So they might speed up the process some.

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I don't think it will fly off the shelves even if it is a miracle cure. A lot of men are over confident and vain and think it's the woman's job to look nice, not theirs. They're happy looking like crap. A lot of men also like having no hair, mostly through laziness.

Where are you based?