Histogen at the ISHRS conference

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  • 2020
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1513

    Originally posted by Desmond84
    No! They won't have to!

    Phase 2 finishes in April 2013.


    Originally posted by Desmond84
    If they stick to their plans, Phase 3 should start in Sep-Oct 2013.

    Phase 3 will be a 12 month trial + 2-3 months of data analysis. (i.e. Phase 3 completion date ~ Jan 2015)
    that's in ABSOLUTE best case scenario. Didn't they themselves say to add another two years? So that would mean 2017?

    Originally posted by Desmond84
    They would then apply for FDA approval which generally takes 8-10 mnths.
    fine

    Originally posted by Desmond84
    This would mean, Ji Gami can be available in clinics across USA by November 2015!
    this is what I'm talking about. Let's say they have this all figured out and working in some lab in Singapore. Ok how long do you imagine it would take for independent clinics to start training on people on using that stuff, advertising etc...

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    • 2020
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1513

      Originally posted by 534623

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      • Breaking Bald
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 598

        Originally posted by 2020
        this is what I'm talking about. Let's say they have this all figured out and working in some lab in Singapore. Ok how long do you imagine it would take for independent clinics to start training on people on using that stuff, advertising etc...
        Well I don't think it would take very long to train people, considering they will basically just be injections. However, I have to agree that Desmond is overly optimistic.

        Did you watch the Bald Truth Show Desmond, you were kind of getting slated pretty badly by Joe.

        We need more info from Histogen, all we can do is wait. There is no point in being overly optimistic or pessimistic for that matter. I'm trying to stay neutral.

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        • garethbale
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 603

          Originally posted by Breaking Bald
          Well I don't think it would take very long to train people, considering they will basically just be injections. However, I have to agree that Desmond is overly optimistic.

          Did you watch the Bald Truth Show Desmond, you were kind of getting slated pretty badly by Joe.

          We need more info from Histogen, all we can do is wait. There is no point in being overly optimistic or pessimistic for that matter. I'm trying to stay neutral.
          The logistics, advertising and administration of it is something these companies will have to think about. If guys are queuing up to have this done, they will need to consider how it will be streamlined.

          Then again I bet 99% of balding guys have never even heard of Histogen/Aderans/Replicel, I would even include guys that actively fight their hairloss.

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            Originally posted by garethbale
            The logistics, advertising and administration of it is something these companies will have to think about. If guys are queuing up to have this done, they will need to consider how it will be streamlined.

            Then again I bet 99% of balding guys have never even heard of Histogen/Aderans/Replicel, I would even include guys that actively fight their hairloss.
            This is true. I spoke to some friends of mine who have noticed their balding situation and have addressed it in only the most pointless methods of all; no Finasteride, Minox, no RU, no CB, no Saw Palmetto, No Nizoral... nothing. The only thing they know of is the over the counter crap that sells in shampoo bottles that says 'growth stimulant' I mean, they *have* taken the first step but thats as far as they come.

            I wont be too surprised if all of us here on the forums would be amongst the first to have a procedure done.

            I have a feeling that lineups for a procedure will become long once the word gets out about. Of course, the media will help too depending how much of a craze they push.... but lets be honest, theyre more concerned over Beyonce singing at the Super Bowl than anything health related.

            So, good news for us at least.... I think us, the guys that put a SOLID effort into fighting hairloss and helping eachother out are amongst the most deserving to be put FIRST on the list.

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            • 534623
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1854

              Originally posted by Breaking Bald

              We need more info from Histogen
              Can someone do me a favor, please?



              starting at 02:00>>what exactly is Dr. Cotsarelis saying in this video?

              He is talking about a "combination". Combination of WHAT exactly created the hairs on the mouse's back - and what's the reason why you shouldn't try this at home?

              And finally, what has this to do with Histogen, Histogen's presentation at the ISHRS meeting and finally, Dr. Cole's report? I will tell you this thereafter...

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              • Kirby_
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 439

                Originally posted by Breaking Bald
                Did you watch the Bald Truth Show Desmond, you were kind of getting slated pretty badly by Joe.
                Really? That doesn't sound pleasant...

                Originally posted by hellouser
                This is true. I spoke to some friends of mine who have noticed their balding situation and have addressed it in only the most pointless methods of all; no Finasteride, Minox, no RU, no CB, no Saw Palmetto, No Nizoral... nothing. The only thing they know of is the over the counter crap that sells in shampoo bottles that says 'growth stimulant' I mean, they *have* taken the first step but thats as far as they come.
                Hah, so true! I know what you mean, they are worried about hair loss but only use crap like Alpecin, or the expensive Nourkrin vitamin tablets and topicals from Boots the Chemists. Which (the worst part) makes them believe that there are no actual 'real' hair loss treatments...

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                • Thinning87
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 839

                  Originally posted by 534623
                  Can someone do me a favor, please?



                  starting at 02:00>>what exactly is Dr. Cotsarelis saying in this video?

                  He is talking about a "combination". Combination of WHAT exactly created the hairs on the mouse's back - and what's the reason why you shouldn't try this at home?

                  And finally, what has this to do with Histogen, Histogen's presentation at the ISHRS meeting and finally, Dr. Cole's report? I will tell you this thereafter...
                  tell us now although i fear it's bad news

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                  • 534623
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1854

                    Originally posted by Thinning87
                    tell us now although i fear it's bad news
                    No, actually -no. The "key" is actually what Dr. Cotsarelis is saying in the video.
                    So what exactly is he (the speaker-lady mentioned this too before Cots) saying concerning the "combination"?

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                    • Thinning87
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 839

                      to not try it at home...?

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                      • 534623
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1854

                        Originally posted by Thinning87
                        to not try it at home...?
                        Right - but why?
                        What exactly is needed to get this to work? What exactly do they say?

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                        • Desmond84
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 987

                          @2020

                          Hey dude,

                          I think there's a bit of confusion about what product I was referring to!

                          Garethbale asked me about Aderans (in Histogen thread) so I said 2015! Histogen will most definitely NOT be available in US by 2015! That's without the doubt!

                          Here's what Gareth was asking b4 I answered his question

                          Originally posted by garethbale
                          Really?

                          If Aderans were moving to stem cells that doesn't seem to make an awful lot of sense. I mean, if their results would be poor it would soon be pretty obvious that this was not a great treatment and I imagine people wouldn't pay for it.

                          I have read a bit on Adreans and one thing they don't seem to lack is money. Funding for lab work can't be a major problem for them.

                          On the one hand I want them to release a product that will give a real improvement, yet on the other I just want them to hurry up and release something!

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                          • Desmond84
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 987

                            Originally posted by Breaking Bald
                            Well I don't think it would take very long to train people, considering they will basically just be injections. However, I have to agree that Desmond is overly optimistic.

                            Did you watch the Bald Truth Show Desmond, you were kind of getting slated pretty badly by Joe.

                            We need more info from Histogen, all we can do is wait. There is no point in being overly optimistic or pessimistic for that matter. I'm trying to stay neutral.
                            Hey BreakingBald

                            He mentioned me in the show! wow! R u serious!

                            I'll be listening to it and give you my opinion!

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                            • Thinning87
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 839

                              Originally posted by 534623
                              Right - but why?
                              What exactly is needed to get this to work? What exactly do they say?
                              Ok i'm gonna pass out if you wanna let us know the key to this mystery please write it down and I will read it tomorrow morning.

                              Good night folks!

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                              • Desmond84
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 987

                                Hey guys,

                                Does anyone have the link to this weeks show? Apparently Joe was discussing what's been happening on the forum!

                                Cheers

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