Histogen at the ISHRS conference

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  • Thinning87
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 839

    Damn the difference between 2015 and 2018 for me is huge. Starting in July, I'm gonna put 1k per month in the savings so I can do the procedure as soon as it comes out, wherever it will be in the world.

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    • szn
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 15

      so i thought this was supposed to be available after phase 3 in 2015? Anyone have anymore details on the release date, etc?

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      • koolx
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 115

        Originally posted by FearTheLoss
        results are good it will be in Asia in 3ish years and probably 5ish for the US
        i disagree.. the CEO of histogen said in an interview with spencer (november 2012) that asia will have by 2014-2015. and usa by 2017.

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        • szn
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 15

          i hope histogen will have an all inclusive package that will allow people outside of SE Asia to come and get treatment

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          • rdawg
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 996

            Originally posted by koolx
            i disagree.. the CEO of histogen said in an interview with spencer (november 2012) that asia will have by 2014-2015. and usa by 2017.
            They could streamline it in the USA.

            I honestly can't see this taking an extra 3 years to reach North America.

            Can you imagine the media alone when this stuff is growing hair in europe, and the FDA says we gotta wait an extra 2-3 years to get it here!

            I'd say one extra year to get it to the US, I believe ASIA is trying to do it in the style that the FDA would want, so that they can get it to market here faster(or at least something along those lines).

            Pretty exciting time, get on some transition stuff guys! Fin just started working for myself after 6 months so it looks like i can hold on to my hair until then!

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            • FearTheLoss
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1581

              Originally posted by rdawg
              They could streamline it in the USA.

              I honestly can't see this taking an extra 3 years to reach North America.

              Can you imagine the media alone when this stuff is growing hair in europe, and the FDA says we gotta wait an extra 2-3 years to get it here!

              I'd say one extra year to get it to the US, I believe ASIA is trying to do it in the style that the FDA would want, so that they can get it to market here faster(or at least something along those lines).

              Pretty exciting time, get on some transition stuff guys! Fin just started working for myself after 6 months so it looks like i can hold on to my hair until then!

              when you say working do you mean you stopped losing hair or regrowth or thickening of hair?

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              • mjolnir
                Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 67

                Originally posted by rdawg
                They could streamline it in the USA.

                I honestly can't see this taking an extra 3 years to reach North America.

                Can you imagine the media alone when this stuff is growing hair in europe, and the FDA says we gotta wait an extra 2-3 years to get it here!

                I'd say one extra year to get it to the US, I believe ASIA is trying to do it in the style that the FDA would want, so that they can get it to market here faster(or at least something along those lines).

                Pretty exciting time, get on some transition stuff guys! Fin just started working for myself after 6 months so it looks like i can hold on to my hair until then!
                The are real stem cell treatments for far more serious conditions than hair loss available in parts of the world other than the USA, and some of them even work. When did the media last report on those? They have better things to focus on, like celebrity scandals - you know, stuff that normal people care about. The FDA is rigorous, and arguably for a good reason. I hope it doesn't take them too long to approve Histogen, but don't hold your breath.

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                • rdawg
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 996

                  Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                  when you say working do you mean you stopped losing hair or regrowth or thickening of hair?
                  stopped shedding, hair has thickened a bit.

                  Nothing major but 6 months in I'd say i've gone from a NW3 to NW2.7 haha, definitely noticeable but nothing life changing.

                  the thinning on top I think has improved the most, just thicker in some spots.

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                  • FearTheLoss
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1581

                    Originally posted by rdawg
                    stopped shedding, hair has thickened a bit.

                    Nothing major but 6 months in I'd say i've gone from a NW3 to NW2.7 haha, definitely noticeable but nothing life changing.

                    the thinning on top I think has improved the most, just thicker in some spots.
                    That's awesome! You should for sure be good until the new treatments come ATLEAST... I'm 2 months in and noticed some increased shedding of miniaturized hairs only, but I think that is a good sign my research says they will grow back thicker...


                    ALSO, for the FDA process, I am positive I read somewhere that they only speed up the approval process for drugs that are treating life threatening illnesses, and such, and not something cosmetic like hair loss..

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      Originally posted by rdawg
                      I honestly can't see this taking an extra 3 years to reach North America.

                      Can you imagine the media alone when this stuff is growing hair in europe, and the FDA says we gotta wait an extra 2-3 years to get it here!
                      Ultimately its up to the public. Demand enough of something, and you'll get it. If the FDA decides to take forever, you guys (Americans) will need to make a STRONG push to force them to speed up the process. I guarantee you that if you make enough noise and work hard enough on your efforts you *can* get some results.

                      Demand it, don't just mope for it.

                      I've worked in marketing agencies before and even started grassroots political rallys where I've been contacted by Jack Layton (former political leader of the NDP in Canada). We spread our message long and hard and we ultimately won our fight.

                      I'm positive that if enough efforts are put forth into this situation you guys can get some results... I've fought before and I'm willing to fight 10 times as hard for something as important as my satisfaction with life... my hair means a lot to me, my self esteem, my confidence, etc.

                      Actually, right NOW would be a good time to start a push for this....

                      .... you know what, on further reflection I'm going to reach out to Aderans myself and hopefully make some connections with some PR individuals. Get the ball rolling now and raise awareness both in media and in the public and get everyone involved and FORCE the release of Aderans ON SCHEDULE.

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                      • koolx
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 115

                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        Ultimately its up to the public. Demand enough of something, and you'll get it. If the FDA decides to take forever, you guys (Americans) will need to make a STRONG push to force them to speed up the process. I guarantee you that if you make enough noise and work hard enough on your efforts you *can* get some results.

                        Demand it, don't just mope for it.

                        I've worked in marketing agencies before and even started grassroots political rallys where I've been contacted by Jack Layton (former political leader of the NDP in Canada). We spread our message long and hard and we ultimately won our fight.

                        I'm positive that if enough efforts are put forth into this situation you guys can get some results... I've fought before and I'm willing to fight 10 times as hard for something as important as my satisfaction with life... my hair means a lot to me, my self esteem, my confidence, etc.

                        Actually, right NOW would be a good time to start a push for this....

                        .... you know what, on further reflection I'm going to reach out to Aderans myself and hopefully make some connections with some PR individuals. Get the ball rolling now and raise awareness both in media and in the public and get everyone involved and FORCE the release of Aderans ON SCHEDULE.
                        im with u on that one. and if u need an extra supporter just remember u can find me here.

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                        • Kiwi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1087

                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          Ultimately its up to the public. Demand enough of something, and you'll get it. If the FDA decides to take forever, you guys (Americans) will need to make a STRONG push to force them to speed up the process. I guarantee you that if you make enough noise and work hard enough on your efforts you *can* get some results.

                          Demand it, don't just mope for it.

                          I've worked in marketing agencies before and even started grassroots political rallys where I've been contacted by Jack Layton (former political leader of the NDP in Canada). We spread our message long and hard and we ultimately won our fight.

                          I'm positive that if enough efforts are put forth into this situation you guys can get some results... I've fought before and I'm willing to fight 10 times as hard for something as important as my satisfaction with life... my hair means a lot to me, my self esteem, my confidence, etc.

                          Actually, right NOW would be a good time to start a push for this....

                          .... you know what, on further reflection I'm going to reach out to Aderans myself and hopefully make some connections with some PR individuals. Get the ball rolling now and raise awareness both in media and in the public and get everyone involved and FORCE the release of Aderans ON SCHEDULE.
                          I think you should also contact Histogen. They are onto something too

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                          • 534623
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1854

                            Originally posted by Kiwi
                            They are onto something too
                            I always wonder how you guys conclude that something from Histogen, Replicel, Aderans etc will work?

                            Is it because they simply claim A) "It works!" or is it because you guys (wishful)think B) "It has to work even if it doesn't work!" ?

                            So your thoughts are based on WHAT exactly?
                            A) or B) - both?

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                            • Scientalk56
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 280

                              It's based on clinical trails..
                              but more research have to be done, on larger number of people (phase III) so the FDA can approve the drug.
                              At this point, i think it's early to conclude anything.. we have to wait until phase III.
                              Hope it will work

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                              • Dan26
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 1270

                                Originally posted by 534623
                                I always wonder how you guys conclude that something from Histogen, Replicel, Aderans etc will work?

                                Is it because they simply claim A) "It works!" or is it because you guys (wishful)think B) "It has to work even if it doesn't work!" ?

                                So your thoughts are based on WHAT exactly?
                                A) or B) - both?
                                It's called science man! I only bank on Histogen working personally...Injecting the scalp with growth factors is the most essential step to fighting hair loss.

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