Histogen show "cosmetic" results oct 2012 update

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  • Desmond84
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    Originally posted by 2020
    RARE? That page has at least 100 other pics. Go visit hair loss forums or even THE OFFICIAL PROPECIA site.

    That wasn't HSC ONE SINGLE RESULTS. That was their best. If their temple results were really that good as their numbers, they would have posted pictures. Why didn't they?

    Also, why is his scalp so red? Wtf?



    how am I not?

    Pictures of Propecia vs pictures of HSC

    HSC doesn't come even close. Propecia wins.

    2020 don't forget that so far, Histogen has only treated a 2x2cm area not the entire scalp! so comparing photos of the entire scalp is a bit pointless. We have to see photos of treatment sessions with 200-300 injections and then talk about real cosmetic differences.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
    2020 is a troll who promoted equol, from a company that shut down.
    I've only posted science saying that equol is probably the safest alternative to fin. Equol is just a molecule. I couldn't care where you bought it from.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    Youre taking Fin's best result (a rare one at that, as not everyone is guaranteed THOSE results) vs Histogen's one single result that could be an average result.
    RARE? That page has at least 100 other pics. Go visit hair loss forums or even THE OFFICIAL PROPECIA site.

    That wasn't HSC ONE SINGLE RESULTS. That was their best. If their temple results were really that good as their numbers, they would have posted pictures. Why didn't they?

    Also, why is his scalp so red? Wtf?

    Originally posted by hellouser
    Youre not in any position to make a final statement as to which is factually better without seeing some real world results. Sorry, but youre off base here.
    how am I not?

    Pictures of Propecia vs pictures of HSC

    HSC doesn't come even close. Propecia wins.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by JJacobs152
    Considering fin has some pretty crazy reported side effects...
    oh shut up most people don't. I bet at least 70% will never have any problems ever with fin.

    Originally posted by JJacobs152
    I'll give Histogen the upper hand on this. If the same results are seen with the two drugs,
    They're not! HSC is not even close.

    Originally posted by JJacobs152
    yet Histogen yields the results faster, as the data suggest, why isn't Histogen a better alternative than fin? It'll mean we'll probably have to walk into our local Plastic Surgeon's office, elect to have this in-office procedure done, pay him, and walk out.

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  • john2399
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    Dam 2020 just brought me back to reality. Maybe everyone is jumping the gun, specially talking about prices already. We need more pictures before we can really believe this treatment is effective enough.

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  • yeahyeahyeah
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    2020 is a troll who promoted equol, from a company that shut down.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by 2020
    didn't I already post this:

    What we have available:



    What Histogen is offering as the "future" hair loss treatment:

    Youre taking Fin's best result (a rare one at that, as not everyone is guaranteed THOSE results) vs Histogen's one single result that could be an average result.

    Youre not in any position to make a final statement as to which is factually better without seeing some real world results. Sorry, but youre off base here.

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  • JJacobs152
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    Also, finasteride has been noted to be a teratogen, meaning if you and your wife want to have a baby, you'll have to stop taking the drug, otherwise it'll impact the development of your child. Stopping the drug = return of shedding.

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  • JJacobs152
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    Considering fin has some pretty crazy reported side effects...I'll give Histogen the upper hand on this. If the same results are seen with the two drugs, yet Histogen yields the results faster, as the data suggest, why isn't Histogen a better alternative than fin? It'll mean we'll probably have to walk into our local Plastic Surgeon's office, elect to have this in-office procedure done, pay him, and walk out.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    So far, this is looking absolutely amazing considering whats available today.
    didn't I already post this:

    What we have available:



    What Histogen is offering as the "future" hair loss treatment:

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by rdawg
    Histogen at $15000 is laughable, there's a reason why many dont do a hair transplant and part of that is the cost. $12000 is on the lower end, most are higher but still, It's hard to justify tossing $15000 on a bit of hair when you're only making say 40,000 a year(if you're younger or whatever) it's just not practical.

    Histogen will be in the hundreds range IMO as that's cheap enough so that every hairloss sufferer can afford it once every few years. Once you get into the $1000's, you lose customers.

    EDIT: because this product is not a fullout reversal as well, it seems, so far, to only help with more moderate loss although I'm not sure what happens if you continue to inject in different spots.
    I know, I was only using a 'worst-case' scenario. I mean, who knows what the actual price is, but I've already stated in previous threads that I'm willing to drop cash on any treatment that isnt an HT or Finasteride. So far, this is looking absolutely amazing considering whats available today. I really do hope they get a speedy approval process but that I'm sure will be another 1-3 years or maybe more if they hit some kind of roadblock. But its obvious their technique works so shouldnt be too long.

    With myself though, I don't want to wait another 3 years and am already planning a visit to go just for my hairline (Gho because despite what naysayers say, id like to have donor hair regrow and not be limited by it). This route should give me more options in the future as opposed to FUE. Thank god Im only about an NW3 and can easily go back to NW1.

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  • 2020
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    Subjects receiving HSC in the temporal recession, which is known to be more difficult to treat than other areas of hair loss, saw marked improvement in terminal hair count, with a mean increase of 22.6% at 12 weeks and 25.2% at the 24 week time point.
    how the hell do you get 20% increase in TERMINAL HAIR COUNT? That spot was bald wasn't it. How do you come up with that number?

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by mjolnir
    I can easily save up $12k in 5 years. I can easily save up $12k in 6 months. That doesn't mean I want to spend that much on my vanity.
    I wouldnt call it vanity, it is MUCH more than that. It is your *FACE* thats affected by this bitch of a condition. It is your self esteem, your confidence, your appearance, the public's perception of you and your happiness. Its not vanity, that is just a copout for anyone who hasnt gone through hairloss themselves.

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  • JJacobs152
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    What's the next step after this?

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  • Kirby_
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    I hope they can launch this procedure for equivalent price of laser eye surgery, with similar walk-in, walk-out out-patient arrangements. It'd be truly mass market then - think of all the people who'd never contemplate a HT in a million years who'd be up for this. As long as they weren't squeamish about needles.

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