Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[b0urna]

Happy new year gutted. Thanks for dropping by.
Iv been on the msm/vitc religiously for the past 4 months, I don't take any other treatments, vitamins, special shampoos or medications. I seem to be doing well on this combo, and my shedding rate has come down, in fact my hair feels better than it has done for the past 2 years. My crown is my main concern right now, so iv been thinking of adding trx2 for some regrowth. The price seems kind of high however and iv heard really mixed reviews on the stuff, which might be because users are combining it with other treatments. Anyway my question is, are you sure the trx2 was what provided you with regrowth, or do you think the msm would have filled this hair in anyway? and would you advise trx2 over minox? Thanks

[Jcm800]

the itch all over the head is pretty unusual which makes me think its something else, but a diffuse crown is certainly an indication of mpb. It could be a scalp bacterial infection of some sort.

dont touch fin!!! you will regret it,but its a decesion only you can make.

good luck whatever you decide to do mate.

It's not a crazy demonic itch all over gutted, i just find myself scratching here and there - could just be habit, but nah - theres an itch, just like to stress i'm not scratching away at my scalp drawing blood everywhere.

I won't touch Fin, at least not yet. I have too much to lose if it goes tits up, and my hair isnt worth that. But i always think, maybe i'd be lucky and benefit and dodge the bullet - but i doubt that.

I willl however carry on with this - for a long time yet. I may drop the trx2 tho, still not convinced that stuff is nothing but a scam, and it's pricey.

[gutted]

Happy new year gutted. Thanks for dropping by.
Iv been on the msm/vitc religiously for the past 4 months, I don't take any other treatments, vitamins, special shampoos or medications. I seem to be doing well on this combo, and my shedding rate has come down, in fact my hair feels better than it has done for the past 2 years. My crown is my main concern right now, so iv been thinking of adding trx2 for some regrowth. The price seems kind of high however and iv heard really mixed reviews on the stuff, which might be because users are combining it with other treatments. Anyway my question is, are you sure the trx2 was what provided you with regrowth, or do you think the msm would have filled this hair in anyway? and would you advise trx2 over minox? Thanks

hi thanks happy new year to you to.

Its good to hear the combo is working for some people at least!
Perhaps people who arent seeing results should take a leaf out of your book and stop playing around with different combos and use it alone and as directed...just a thought.

I do belive trx2 can provide regrowth but its very slow, and results appear over time. In fact the crown region is the first areas i recollect seeing my first results.
If you DONT have your hair loss under control (using MSM) then there is NO point in taking trx2, you will only lose the hairs that trx2 regrows for you making it look like trx2 didnt really do much apart from empty your wallet. So its very wise to take both together.

I really cant say if MSM alone can provide regrowth, maybe some minor regrowth i.e hairs that were just recently lost within the last few months, but as for hairs that were lost over a long period i.e dormant, trx2 may be the one to help you out there.

Yes i would recommend trx2 over minox.

[gutted]

It's not a crazy demonic itch all over gutted, i just find myself scratching here and there - could just be habit, but nah - theres an itch, just like to stress i'm not scratching away at my scalp drawing blood everywhere.

I won't touch Fin, at least not yet. I have too much to lose if it goes tits up, and my hair isnt worth that. But i always think, maybe i'd be lucky and benefit and dodge the bullet - but i doubt that.

I willl however carry on with this - for a long time yet. I may drop the trx2 tho, still not convinced that stuff is nothing but a scam, and it's pricey.

lool i see, thats good, everyone has a bit of an itch here and there from the use of styling products etc, how oily is your hair?

perhaps use msm alone, drop the trx2 may be the way for you to go.

[Jcm800]

lool i see, thats good, everyone has a bit of an itch here and there from the use of styling products etc, how oily is your hair?

perhaps use msm alone, drop the trx2 may be the way for you to go.

Hmm my hair needs to be washed every other day, if i dont wash it for two days or more it appears lank and greasy. Although i've just had it cut shorter and messy and it appears to have a bit more volume, i guess thats due to hair appearing thicker when cut shorter.

I'll run with trx for at least three more months, my next order is the freebie (which i hope they honour, did they honour your one year freebie qtr?)

[gutted]

Hmm my hair needs to be washed every other day, if i dont wash it for two days or more it appears lank and greasy. Although i've just had it cut shorter and messy and it appears to have a bit more volume, i guess thats due to hair appearing thicker when cut shorter.

I'll run with trx for at least three more months, my next order is the freebie (which i hope they honour, did they honour your one year freebie qtr?)

msm does cut back on oil alot so you should be able to go without washing your hair for a few days at least.

yes they do honor the freebies.

[Jcm800]

msm does cut back on oil alot so you should be able to go without washing your hair for a few days at least.

yes they do honor the freebies.

I guess in my case, my loss has been slow but steady for at least 10 years, any treatment is gonna have to take a while to kick in, maybe a long while in my case - just a thought.

Glad they honour the freebies lol, i'm pleased about that!

Perhaps im not taking enough gutted? I take 9 grams of msm spaced out 3 times per day as mentioned earlier. along with that i take usually 1 500mg vit c per 3 msm caps. Maybe i should up it? What do you think, is that enough?!

[gutted]

I guess in my case, my loss has been slow but steady for at least 10 years, any treatment is gonna have to take a while to kick in, maybe a long while in my case - just a thought.

Glad they honour the freebies lol, i'm pleased about that!

Perhaps im not taking enough gutted? I take 9 grams of msm spaced out 3 times per day as mentioned earlier. along with that i take usually 1 500mg vit c per 3 msm caps. Maybe i should up it? What do you think, is that enough?!

i think your taking more than enough. As long as you can, without a doubt say your hair/nails are growing faster than it has done previously, then you are getting adequate amounts.

To be honest i think all you need is time and probably a holiday away from BTT!
re introducing minox will obviously make you go through a shed of some sort again. This quite frankly is becoming a cycle of starting and stopping treatments. Its no good for your hair. you need to break this cycle.

[Jcm800]

Lol a holiday. Yeah perhaps I do. Nails and hair are for sure growing fast, little doubt about that.

I hear you re the minox, got loads left and thought I'd try it in conjunction with this combo that's all being as it's not a dht blocker and you didn't discount me using it a while back, so I started up again.

[MrBlonde]

Around the same time i quit i experienced further diffuse thinning in the typical mpb regions which at the time i put down to "genetic mpb progression"


What i noticed was diffuseness started to slowly fill in, the crown was more fuller/denser and had more volume added to it. Things were really good as far as diffuseness goes! but at the time i craved for temple regrowth!



So to answer your question, yes i suffer from androgentic alopecia/and did/do have diffuse thinning.


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Ok so you had and are experiencing thinning. How thin did your hair get at its worse point? Could you see much of that scalp when the hair was wet for exapmle?

Do you believe this would work of minituarising hair also? You say tHey are different but do both not stem from MPB and in essence they same, those thinning hairs are falling out because they shrink and become so weak.

[gutted]

Lol a holiday. Yeah perhaps I do. Nails and hair are for sure growing fast, little doubt about that.

I hear you re the minox, got loads left and thought I'd try it in conjunction with this combo that's all being as it's not a dht blocker and you didn't discount me using it a while back, so I started up again.

yes i remember,if you really do want to use a proven treatment i would reccomend minox over dht suppressors, but you should be aware that you will probably go through another shed of some sort.

This time round you should stick with the minox for a decent length of time...starting and stopping just messes up the hair cycles, which isnt going to give you the desired visbile effects.

[Cob984]

one person claims his hair is in decent shape apart from gutted? so thats it right? this is the nirvana of all treatments ROFL

joke treatment this,

[b0urna]

one person claims his hair is in decent shape apart from gutted? so thats it right? this is the nirvana of all treatments ROFL

joke treatment this,

No-one said this is the nirvana of hairloss treatments, all we are doing it giving it a chance. We all know hairloss sufferers have very limited options right now, otherwise we wouldn't be sat around checking hair forums multiple times a day. Cob I think you should stay open minded or stop flaming on this thread, it's only been a few months so try and stay patient.

[ovoxo]

msm does cut back on oil alot so you should be able to go without washing your hair for a few days at least.

yes they do honor the freebies.

I think msm increased oil production for me, I also have to wash my head everyday and I always have oily forehead

[TheBadger]

I really cant say if MSM alone can provide regrowth, maybe some minor regrowth i.e hairs that were just recently lost within the last few months, but as for hairs that were lost over a long period i.e dormant, trx2 may be the one to help you out there.

Take it you're defining regrowth as lost hairs coming back here? Seen as the rest of your posts talk about reversal and diffuseness filling back in.

No diffiuse thinning is NOT minutuarisation. Minutuarisaion involves hair diameter decresing, diffuse thinning involves more hairs leaving the scalp than usual, which is how MPB manifests in most people.

This confuses me though. It's called thinning because hair gets thinner, which it does because it's miniturising. Hair shedding earlier is part of the reason why it does this, yeah, but they do go hand in hand.

Just trying to work out what the realistic best scenario for this is. I don't honestly care about making my hairline any better, it's not brilliant but if it stayed like this I really wouldn't be bothered, don't care about getting my full former density back, if I had enough density to not be able to see through it in normal daylight I'd be over the moon. It got really wavy too easily before anyway (though I sure do miss that now).