Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[MrBlonde]

I am not going to come here often now because its ****ing depressing, but I have derived some solace and support from this community so I want to give back.

Acell is the Bomb

http://www.deyarmanmedical.com/patients/n-b

I am confident I will experience the results similar to the results experienced by the subject above.

For those of you who want to move on with your lives "Try" Acell. No lotions potions pills involved Just a few dozen injections and you should be able to halt your hair loss for the next few years until the next set of treatments come out.

Peace out

Did it stop your shedding straight away? Did it stop your shedding at the hairline too? I am interested but want to ask so many questions

[TheBadger]

"Those pics say nothing. If he shaves his head to the same length he has in the before pic it might look exactly the same "

Not true . Not going to argue. Believe what you want . Its a significant cosmetic difference. Significant!

"Unproven Treatment"

if it was unproven, board certified surgeons from Ziering to Charles to Baumann to NiedBalski to Greco to Cooley to Prasad to Hitzig to even Rassman wont be offering it as a standalone . Think about it.

Bye

I wouldn't be including Rassman in that list, he's been pretty clear he thinks it's useless.

http://www.baldingblog.com/2012/11/27/could-prp-be-used-for-hair-loss-prevention/

Just says they offer ACell because maybe it might speed up wound healing:

http://www.baldingblog.com/2012/06/28/other-uses-for-acell-in-hair-transplant-surgery/

[StuckInARut]

Well this thread has steered off-topic but I am wondering what happened to gutted? I have used this combo for 3 months but only take a few grams of each daily. To be honest the only things I noticed growing faster were my nails and the hair on my head. I didn't experience any regrowth as far as I can see. I have really noticed a difference in my joints which seems to have been the most beneficial aspect of this combo on my body.

I just recently cut my hair short about a 3/4" length and man my hair is in terrible shape. It doesn't help that I'm a diffuse thinner so I have lost density all over my head not just in the typical MPB areas. I know what I am currently taking (MSM, Vit. C, Saw Palmetto) is most likely not working, probably never was so I am SOL because I refuse to take Finasteride for my own reasons.

I have pretty much after alot of soul searching accepted my fate and since I already have a wife and kids it isn't so bad really. I feel bad for younger brahs who are just starting off because I know it can be devastating to their social/love lives. I'm probably just gonna continue taking 2g-3g each of this combo daily just for maintenance may drop the SP but will continue for the time being. Goodluck to all but I wouldn't be expecting much from this combo. Besides, the only one who claimed to see improvement was gutted and perhaps he is just lucky to respond positively to MSM but he refuses to post pictures so we only have his word to go on.

[Ginkosama]

6 weeks in, 6 to 8 grams a day, same body hair, better skin, better joints, still itching, still shedding.

[Cob984]

pretty sure this treatment is complete bs, anyone new, dont use this and lose ground, add this if you want but dont replace your current treatment with this

[bananana]

pretty sure this treatment is complete bs, anyone new, dont use this and lose ground, add this if you want but dont replace your current treatment with this

I havent lost any ground in the last 3 months I've been using it, so be a bit objective here and dont say its bs. It seems at least to be maintaining what I've got. i'll stick with it for a year and see.

I say again - no treatments ever showed such positive signs on itch and oil as msm has.

My 2 cents.

[b0urna]

Nearing 4months in myself. Hair isn't in worse condition to when I started. Maybe slight improvement but its hard to tell. I never shed with dry hair anymore really, but still in the shower. Not much more to say, still early days. Hair grows insanely fast, had a haircut last week and it already needs another trim.

[ammin]

I am not going to do this often. I am trying to wean myself of this website to never return.....

I was diffuse NW 4- 5 3 weeks ago. I was preparing myself for a life of baldness


3 weeks into my Acell/PRP/Vitamin D injections...

No doubt in my mind. I am 85-90% of pre MPB density. Perhaps more.

Temples filling in

My hair is also significantly thicker, perhaps as thick as it was last summer at my graduation but most probably not.

I am hoping in another few months , I will have restored pre MPB density, and thickness. I am not so sure about the thickness though.

Post which I Hope I can maintain what I have achieved.

I might be an above average responder to the treatment so I am not sure if the modality will work wonders for you as it did for me.

Best part is, it is so convenient. I dont have to do anything.

Caveat emptor: I have been on a host of pills and potions in the last 6 months. Currently , I am on TRX 2 and Revivogen , treatments I have been on for 3 and 4 months respectively.

Peace out

[fred970]

I'm stopping this protocol, it gave me nice skin and hair but the huge increase in sebum is unbearable!

[bananana]

I'm stopping this protocol, it gave me nice skin and hair but the huge increase in sebum is unbearable!

This is crazy - this regimen seems to influence everyone in a different way - I saw a huge decrease of sebum - you saw an increase. Crazy...

I am not going to do this often. I am trying to wean myself of this website to never return.....

I was diffuse NW 4- 5 3 weeks ago. I was preparing myself for a life of baldness
3 weeks into my Acell/PRP/Vitamin D injections...
No doubt in my mind. I am 85-90% of pre MPB density. Perhaps more.
Temples filling in
My hair is also significantly thicker, perhaps as thick as it was last summer at my graduation but most probably not.
I am hoping in another few months , I will have restored pre MPB density, and thickness. I am not so sure about the thickness though.
Post which I Hope I can maintain what I have achieved.
I might be an above average responder to the treatment so I am not sure if the modality will work wonders for you as it did for me.
Best part is, it is so convenient. I dont have to do anything.
Caveat emptor: I have been on a host of pills and potions in the last 6 months. Currently , I am on TRX 2 and Revivogen , treatments I have been on for 3 and 4 months respectively.
Peace out

Wtf dude? I never heard of such great results. Do you have any photos to back this up? DO you guys know which doctor in europe does this?
At what price? And the results are temporary, I presume?

[Ginkosama]

Wtf dude? I never heard of such great results. Do you have any photos to back this up? DO you guys know which doctor in europe does this?
At what price? And the results are temporary, I presume?

I can do the same procedure in my basement for half the price and the exact same results. I accept paypal, Western Union, jewellery ...

...

Why are we even discussing this ?
This is a hot topic and a random guy shows up "oh btw, I found the cure, cost only a few grand but it's money well spent I can assure you".

[MrBlonde]

I'm stopping this protocol, it gave me nice skin and hair but the huge increase in sebum is unbearable!

I am seeing an increase in sebum too but doesn't this usually go hand in hand with an itch? which I am not experiencing anymore. Not a huge amount but noticeable, well I thinks its sebum anyway.

I have noticed some positive signs lately that maybe down to this regime but they also could be down to something I was doing wrong that I have since stopped. Let me explain.

The hair is still shedding mainly at the hairline. I don't seem to loose much from anywhere else and I believe the hairline shedding levels have slightly reduced. In fact about six weeks ago I though things were desperate especially in the temple area. It was getting to the stage where I though that another couple of devastating showers and they will be exposed as I wear my hair long and combed down.

The hair on my right temple was very thin and it was difficult to style but now its a lot better. My left temple has gotten thinner but its still ok to style.

I wash may hair once a week these days due to heavy shower loss. When I'd run my hand through my hair straight after a shower obviously I shed, due to hair being a lot more prone to breakage when wet and me dislodging hair when massaging in the shampoo. As my hair dries during the evening a few hairs will come out if I pull at them but once fully dry it seems from that day until the next shower day I have very little loss, sometimes none. I pull away at my crown now but nothing comes out unless I use extra force. My hair still feels thin up top though.

What could have cause my hair looking bad was it not getting a proper wash though. Such was my panic and my thinning hair and its shedding, especially suffering heavy losses in the shower that I was not properly massaging my scalp. Instead I would get a lather going in the back and side and grab handfulls of this and dab it onto my top hair and let it soak in, there was little or no massaging involved. I was also dissolving 10g of MSM in water and using that in between shampoos. As I was not massaging aggresively enough maybe this was not getting washed out correctly and it may be making any sebum there looks worse, as both are white in color. Sometimes I would pour the shampoo into an empty bottle and add water and shake to get a good lather going and let it sit on my head. My hair was getting plenty of shampoo but I would not say it was getting pushed into the scalp as much as a normal wash.

I have also noticed some hairs shedding that are in the early anagen phase also, ie a long hair with a smaller hair attached. .These hairs are rare to come out when I run my hands through my hair so hopefully thesrest are regrowing and hanging on.

this is what I mean



Now that I have gone back to washing my hair correctly again things look better but I was shedding in between showers a lot more on the week days than before.

It could be anything or this combo. I could be coming to the end of a shedding phase, the combo is now giving me a reduction in shed (which would be the next step according to gutted's timeline) and signs or regrowth as I am on TRX2 also or I could have lost so much due to MPB that whats left is strong enough for the time being. I can't be sure which it is.


I wonder did Gutted see any sebum increase? Maybe when he comes back from his Christmas vacation he can start answering questions again.

Here is the article I got the picture from. Its about Sebum build up and has some interested information

http://www.freepressreleases.com/hair-loss-due-seborrheic-dermatitis/225952

[ammin]

Wtf dude? I never heard of such great results. Do you have any photos to back this up? DO you guys know which doctor in europe does this?
At what price? And the results are temporary, I presume?

The pictures should be on Dr hitzigs website within a few weeks when I go back for my follow up

[ammin]

http://grecohairrestoration.com/photos.html

I am like the third guy from the left under Photos non surgical

[bananana]

http://grecohairrestoration.com/photos.html

I am like the third guy from the left under Photos non surgical

Well, if thats true. I'm very much interested.
Do you know of a doctor in europe that does this?

Obviously this needs to be looked into further..