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  • gutted
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1397

    Originally posted by Space
    Like?

    tenchar
    fishoil. Although there is no way of knowing what the other stuff you are taking is doing. So it may not just be that. As i have maintained throughout the thread, this only works alone.

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    • Space
      Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 44

      Originally posted by gutted
      fishoil. Although there is no way of knowing what the other stuff you are taking is doing. So it may not just be that. As i have maintained throughout the thread, this only works alone.
      You have suggested that limiting or reducing DHT in a balanced manner is a good idea: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpos...&postcount=637

      Fish oil is IMO a prime example of that. The body needs fish oil, and back in the day when people didn't just eat junk we probably got enough of that stuff in our regular diet. But now most people don't.

      Isn't it imperative to have a nutritious diet if you want to keep your hair? I can understand your advice against chemical shit minox or finas, since that stuff is inherently bad for you.

      But it seems silly to exclude stuff that's basically natural and good for you. And stuff that we're probably supposed to get in our regular diet.

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      • gutted
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1397

        Originally posted by Space
        You have suggested that limiting or reducing DHT in a balanced manner is a good idea: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpos...&postcount=637

        Fish oil is IMO a prime example of that. The body needs fish oil, and back in the day when people didn't just eat junk we probably got enough of that stuff in our regular diet. But now most people don't.

        Isn't it imperative to have a nutritious diet if you want to keep your hair? I can understand your advice against chemical shit minox or finas, since that stuff is inherently bad for you.

        But it seems silly to exclude stuff that's basically natural and good for you. And stuff that we're probably supposed to get in our regular diet.

        yes exactly...but the question is how do you know you are surpressing dht in a balanced manner and not overdoing it? you dont. the next best thing is to not supress it at all.

        I agree with your comments. But if things dont work out for you it may be wise to drop some things in the future, as i can only vouch for the efficacy of the combo used alone.

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        • ilovebacon
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 2

          Hey all! I've been a lurker on this board for quite sometime but this is my first post. I'm interested in this but have a few questions about the regimen.

          First of all I am a diffuse thinner. I took Rogaine for approximately a year and quit about 6 months ago. My hair isn't horrible but the post-minox symptoms definitely did a number on the thickness of my hair. I'm not sure if I've reached baseline with this or not... Because I stopped the rogaine I started this about three months ago.

          >>> TRX2, MSM (3 grams a day), Inneov Homme, Biosil, Vitamin D, and Fish Oil. I recently stoped taking Shen Min DHT Blocker and Advanced Men's formula about a month ago which I had been taking for a year. Topically I have been using Nizoral and Avalon hair thickening shampoo.

          Do I need to stop taking Nizoral as well to achieve the best results with this??? Also, I just ordered Prox-N and the Nano Shampoo from LEF. Is this not a good idea use on this regimen as well?

          Thank you for your help!

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          • Ginkosama
            Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 40

            Recommandations for those who wanna jump on it:

            -start low. If you take a full tea spoon straight away you gonna have a bad time.
            You need to give your body some time to detox. I took half a tea spoon in the morning and half of a teaspoon during diner and I was feeling feverish, weakened, during the day.
            I stepped away for a day and the symptoms vanished.
            I started again slower and I am fine now with higher dosages.

            -Drink water, lots of water. For some reason you gonna get dehydrated waaaaay faster when you are building up your dosage, I dunno if it goes away when you are accustomed to a few grams a day.

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            • MrBlonde
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 261

              Originally posted by Ginkosama
              Recommandations for those who wanna jump on it:

              -start low. If you take a full tea spoon straight away you gonna have a bad time.
              You need to give your body some time to detox. I took half a tea spoon in the morning and half of a teaspoon during diner and I was feeling feverish, weakened, during the day.
              I stepped away for a day and the symptoms vanished.
              I started again slower and I am fine now with higher dosages.

              -Drink water, lots of water. For some reason you gonna get dehydrated waaaaay faster when you are building up your dosage, I dunno if it goes away when you are accustomed to a few grams a day.
              Sorry but what? Teaspoons of what? Are we still talking about MSM here?

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              • Ginkosama
                Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 40

                Originally posted by MrBlonde
                Sorry but what? Teaspoons of what? Are we still talking about MSM here?
                Yeah, I bought 250 grams of OptiMSM, it's cheaper than the pills.
                Half a teaspoon is 2 grams apparently

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                • bouflee
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 3

                  Originally posted by Ginkosama
                  Half a teaspoon is 2 grams apparently
                  Really? I thought 1 teaspoon was 1 gram and ive been taking 6, so ive been taking 12 grams then

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                  • Space
                    Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 44

                    1 teaspoon is 3,5 grams. It says so on my MSM jar.

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                    • Cob984
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 526

                      is anyone here seeing visible changes in their hair such as thickness, halting of balding etc?
                      i know of bunch of you guys have seen reduced itch but anything else?

                      im on week 9 now and i see absolutely nothing, in fact im starting to develop a crown bald spot, my hairloss isnt halting

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                      • Space
                        Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 44

                        Originally posted by Cob984
                        is anyone here seeing visible changes in their hair such as thickness, halting of balding etc?
                        i know of bunch of you guys have seen reduced itch but anything else?

                        im on week 9 now and i see absolutely nothing, in fact im starting to develop a crown bald spot, my hairloss isnt halting
                        Are you on TRX2 as well, or just MSM+vitC?

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                        • Jcm800
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 2614

                          Originally posted by Cob984
                          is anyone here seeing visible changes in their hair such as thickness, halting of balding etc?
                          i know of bunch of you guys have seen reduced itch but anything else?

                          im on week 9 now and i see absolutely nothing, in fact im starting to develop a crown bald spot, my hairloss isnt halting
                          Thinking you need to give it more time. If you know of a treatment that'll halt loss and regrow hair in 9 week's let me know..

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                          • ammin
                            Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 74

                            Starting Finasteride tommorow. I have lost a lot of ground in the last 5 months from NW 1.5 with thick hair to NW 6 Diffuse. My parents, significant other, friends and supervisors have pointed out the same to me.

                            I cannot rely on gutted's theory anymore which remains unsubstantiated by clinical evidence; that is not to stay I am discrediting it. For those of you experiencing gradual hairloss stick to his recommended regimen and please report back

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                            • StayThick
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 624

                              TRX2 should be arriving soon, but I'm starting to realize if it's in your genetic disposition to go bald, you will go bald. MSM, TRX2, VitC...nothing will prevent it. Starting to lose faith, best I can hope for at this point is to slow it down. At 27 yrs old I hope I can last another 3-4 years before going compete cue-ball up top and other more viable treatments being available.

                              Very depressing. I'm not holding my breath for this regimen to work.

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                              • MrBlonde
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 261

                                There has been a lot of grumblings in here lately, which is understandable, its our hair we are talking about after all but I don't think anyone has been on the TRX2 MSM & VIT C regeim for over 3 months yet and those that have were on DHT blockers and we need to allow for a rebalance of the time scale.

                                Its still too early to tell and its a 12 month commitment. I am going onto my third bottle of TRX2 now.

                                Why don't we get a check in on the timescales we are all on?

                                new bubble reported a halt to shedding without adding TRX2

                                I was shedding like crazy around june/july time (20-50 hairs p/day), with increased itch and greasy hair. I went on just the MSM/VITC combo WITHOUT trx2 and have improved. Normal shed about 5-10 hairs per day and a healthier scalp and no itch. Soon I will add the TRX2 to see if I can gain some of the loss back or at least maintain whats left. Bottom line it worked for me just stopping the loss and better scalp feel
                                ammin you said the following


                                I want to add that my thin hair isnt shedding. At all!!
                                and that you were also taking
                                FLuridil
                                Revivogen
                                TRX 2
                                Nizoral
                                MSM
                                Vit C
                                Vit D
                                B-Complex EOD
                                So you may need to wait longer than the rest of us for a better result

                                Some of us have seen early positives such as slowing down the effects of MPB, it will be 8 months min before we see any visible signs of a gain in density. Something is happening, the reports are there, I think we all need to be a little more patient and hopefully the next 5-6months will see things improve.

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