Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[MrBlonde]

ya it might right, not for sure? i really doubt putting some sp on my head is going to interfere with this and if you look at the beginning of this thread you agreed with that
so how can you be sure what i am doing now is pointless?

I don't know why you keep repeating the question to Gutted about the external use of DHT blockers like he can possibly tell how much gets absorbed or not like his is some hairloss guru. He has had success with a regeim and if it works for him it just might work for someone else. He won't show us pics either so we don't actually know how good a result he got if any at all but some of us are taking his word for it. You need to decide whether or not you want to also. Personally I am going with it because its an all natural program. I have reduced itch but am nowhere near confident that this is going to work yet. Its a risk we all must take.

Tbh Cob984 it sounds like you are looking for any excuse to use sp again. Well then use it, drop this and use or go with both. Its up to you. Gutted has given you reasons why he thinks they wont work together, you must decide whether or not you think those reasons have any truth to them.

Didn't you report that sp lost its effect after a period of time? So even that isn't fool proof.

Basically its stick or twist time mate. You decide.

[Cob984]

I don't know why you keep repeating the question to Gutted about the external use of DHT blockers like he can possibly tell how much gets absorbed or not like his is some hairloss guru. He has had success with a regeim and if it works for him it just might work for someone else. He won't show us pics either so we don't actually know how good a result he got if any at all but some of us are taking his word for it. You need to decide whether or not you want to also. Personally I am going with it because its an all natural program. I have reduced itch but am nowhere near confident that this is going to work yet. Its a risk we all must take.

Tbh Cob984 it sounds like you are looking for any excuse to use sp again. Well then use it, drop this and use or go with both. Its up to you. Gutted has given you reasons why he thinks they wont work together, you must decide whether or not you think those reasons have any truth to them.

Didn't you report that sp lost its effect after a period of time? So even that isn't fool proof.

Basically its stick or twist time mate. You decide.

sp is also all natural mate, and i have already said im off the oral sp which evidently changes serum dht, i am debating with him on what he thinks are the signs of systemic dhtblocking through my topical use, i have also used topical sp forever and am unsure whether i should drop it, im too scared to do so but if its absolutely essential i might do it, seems like its debatable ,

[sizzlinghairs]

likley scenario 3 and 4. Are you still using the hydrocortisone and micanzaole nitrate?

Well, how would #4 make much sense if literally, just 2 days prior, I was like hmm, "my hair is looking really solid". Maybe I wasnt noticing earlier than that, but when I think my hair looks solid then it usually is. So aggresive MPB smacking me in the face overnight doesnt seem to sound very realistic, but like I said, my observations up until that point might have been faulty. Also, if you are saying #4 then it is discrediting your combo because I have been on trx2 for so long and then adding msm 2 months ago should be well past your timeline for good results, not a sudden change for the negative.

In regards to #3, MAYBE maybe.. I will be dropping it for awhile to see if things improve.

Yes, I still use the mico and hydro. Both just a little on my hairline. Have had no real problems using them since I started using trx2 18 months ago. Last 2 days I used hydro on whole scalp to calm the sudden irritation I have been feeling, but that has been the only time I do that. Other wise mico and hydro ONLY a little on the hairline.

One other thing I have been doing recently is drinking raw organic vegetable smoothies (cucumber/spinach/celery/garlic/apple/sprouts/avocado and ginger). I highly doubt such a healthy lifestyle addition could be to blame, but it does coincide with the timeline.. Hmm

[gutted]

guys, this isnt proven to work in any way. i am only documenting what ive experienced with this combo. And i can only speak for this combo ALONE, if you decide to use it with other stuff its pretty likley this may blur your results, its also likley it may not. I can only vouch for this combo alone.

Now if you do use it with other stuff, you may make a misjudgment and percieve the combo to be not effective at all when in fact it was working all along only that the other stuff you were taking were having other affects on you.

Its best to use it alone to see if you can replicate my results, i sincerley do believe anyone and everyone will experience results, it NEEDS to be followed as directed.

If youve recentley dropped something, you need to get on the combo and +3 months for things to balance out and then start the 12 month timeline of results to see if they materialise.

In the +3 months you allow things to balance out - you WILL notice some signs of increased shedding (not loss) and itching and its possible you will also notice an increase in oil output. This will balance out approx 3 months.

Invisible results ar pretty fast within a few weeks you will notice these occurring.

[gutted]

Well, how would #4 make much sense if literally, just 2 days prior, I was like hmm, "my hair is looking really solid". Maybe I wasnt noticing earlier than that, but when I think my hair looks solid then it usually is. So aggresive MPB smacking me in the face overnight doesnt seem to sound very realistic, but like I said, my observations up until that point might have been faulty. Also, if you are saying #4 then it is discrediting your combo because I have been on trx2 for so long and then adding msm 2 months ago should be well past your timeline for good results, not a sudden change for the negative.

In regards to #3, MAYBE maybe.. I will be dropping it for awhile to see if things improve.

Yes, I still use the mico and hydro. Both just a little on my hairline. Have had no real problems using them since I started using trx2 18 months ago. Last 2 days I used hydro on whole scalp to calm the sudden irritation I have been feeling, but that has been the only time I do that. Other wise mico and hydro ONLY a little on the hairline.

One other thing I have been doing recently is drinking raw organic vegetable smoothies (cucumber/spinach/celery/garlic/apple/sprouts/avocado and ginger). I highly doubt such a healthy lifestyle addition could be to blame, but it does coincide with the timeline.. Hmm

im highley suspecting the micanazole nitrate.

[MrBlonde]

thats not the signs to watch out for...

watch out for the opposite signs of increased libido etc.

homeostasis.

Uh oh. Let me get this right, high libido is bad.

I am feeling really good libido wise all the time

[gutted]

sorry i meant scenario 2 and 3.

[sizzlinghairs]

Well, in terms of my mico/hydro I use such a small amount I could consider the majority of my scalp to be a proper environment (just trx2/msm/vitc) for results consideration. The other supps I take I have been using even before trx2 so their detriments would have been shown by now.

edit (after I read your mico response): I use LESS than a HALF pea sized amount JUST on my hairline. The rest of my scalp, nothing. Miniscule i tell you :P

[gutted]

Uh oh. Let me get this right, high libido is bad.

I am feeling really good libido wise all the time

lol no its good!

your not using dht inhibiting substances so you have nothing to worry about.

[gutted]

Well, in terms of my mico/hydro I use such a small amount I could consider the majority of my scalp to be a proper environment (just trx2/msm/vitc) for results consideration. The other supps I take I have been using even before trx2 so their detriments would have been shown by now.

have no clue, where the source of your problem is. Hence why using the combo alone provides a clearer perspective.

[Jcm800]

gutted - can you post a link for the exact Vit C you are using from bodykind pls? I'll order those, so i know i'm on the same as you, cheers.

[gutted]

gutted - can you post a link for the exact Vit C you are using from bodykind pls? I'll order those, so i know i'm on the same as you, cheers.

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=HRZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&q=nature%27s+way+500&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=39314241&biw=1366&bih=598&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10876106681520344839&sa=X&ei=au63UOyxH62p0AXbqYGIDw&ved=0CEgQ8wIwBA

i get most of mine from natrual sources. juices etc.

[Jcm800]

Thanks, I ordered some high quality drs best in the end, should be okay. I drink lots of juice etc as well so should be covered.

[bouflee]

Jesus doubt this will help my hair but ive been on msm and vit c for 2 weeks now and my wrinkles/fine lines around my eyes are almost gone!!

[Jcm800]

Actually my forehead isn't as wrinkled as before, fck it ill carry on with this even as a beauty regime lol.