Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

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  • ovoxo
    Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 72

    for me it's going to be like 2 and a half months and haven't really seen any change, itching still present, hair quality same. But body hair changed it's quality and it really bothers me.

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    • Jcm800
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 2614

      I'm going to roll with it still, got lots of msm in Stock, just an excruciating waiting game, praying for the turn around, if it comes at all.

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      • gutted
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1397

        Originally posted by Jcm800
        I'm going to roll with it still, got lots of msm in Stock, just an excruciating waiting game, praying for the turn around, if it comes at all.
        stick with it, dont do someting stupid and add something new to the equation.

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        • gutted
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1397

          Originally posted by ovoxo
          for me it's going to be like 2 and a half months and haven't really seen any change, itching still present, hair quality same. But body hair changed it's quality and it really bothers me.
          your also on minox right?

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          • Jcm800
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 2614

            Originally posted by gutted
            stick with it, dont do someting stupid and add something new to the equation.
            Nah ill roll with the regime as is, tempted to add minoxidil again as we already discussed but ill hold tight. Think I'm riding through the post minox shed now, not going to interfere with that, at least not for a few months if the regime doesn't kick in.

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            • gutted
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1397

              Originally posted by Jcm800
              Nah ill roll with the regime as is, tempted to add minoxidil again as we already discussed but ill hold tight. Think I'm riding through the post minox shed now, not going to interfere with that, at least not for a few months if the regime doesn't kick in.
              trust me wait it out, you'll see these sheds calm down, give it 6 months. you should notice something within that timeframe.

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              • Jcm800
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2614

                Existing hair and nails are growing fast, deffo losing on my hairline tho, but guess that's down to 14 months of minox dependency. Never felt minox helped me anyway re regrowth, but it may have been sustaining some hairs. Just have to wait and see if my hair cycles rejigs itself

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                • gutted
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1397

                  Originally posted by Jcm800
                  Existing hair and nails are growing fast, deffo losing on my hairline tho, but guess that's down to 14 months of minox dependency. Never felt minox helped me anyway re regrowth, but it may have been sustaining some hairs. Just have to wait and see if my hair cycles rejigs itself
                  they should grow back now that you have started msm, they would have gone dormant if you wasnt. keep an eye on that area, give it 3 months to let the hairs grow out.

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                  • ovoxo
                    Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 72

                    Originally posted by gutted
                    your also on minox right?
                    yes, don't know if i should continue or not; also I wonder if topical cetirizine would somehow interfere?

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                    • Space
                      Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 44

                      I gotta ask Gutted, did you take Saw Palmetto while taking Toco-8?

                      You said you experienced decreased libido due to Toco-8 when we discussed a couple of days ago, and Saw Palmetto is widely known to decrease libido.

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                      • gutted
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1397

                        Originally posted by Space
                        I gotta ask Gutted, did you take Saw Palmetto while taking Toco-8?

                        You said you experienced decreased libido due to Toco-8 when we discussed a couple of days ago, and Saw Palmetto is widely known to decrease libido.
                        i linked you to the product i took with tocotreniols. it contained phytosterols. Beta sitosterol is in saw palmetto and saw palmetto also is known to boost libido, the way this occurs is due to upregulation.

                        in certain circumstances saw palmetto can boost libido and temporarily lower libido the same goes for tocotreniols.

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                        • gutted
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1397

                          Originally posted by ovoxo
                          yes, don't know if i should continue or not; also I wonder if topical cetirizine would somehow interfere?
                          i dont know i can only say what ive expericed with this combo alone, hence why i say use it alone. minox can cause irritation in some users, which may be misinterprested as the mpb itch. some people dont know what the "mpb itch" is either.

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                          • Buy The Ticket
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 25

                            Originally posted by gutted
                            i dont know i can only say what ive expericed with this combo alone
                            Hi Gutted, just wondering how things are for you right now?

                            I know you started on Neogenic a while ago - you keeping that up?
                            Do you think you are seeing more/accelerated re-growth since incorporating it?

                            If so I might give it a try on my hairline & crown. They are both VERY thin areas for me at the moment and I'll try anything that could possibly aid results.

                            Thanks.

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                            • gutted
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1397

                              Originally posted by Buy The Ticket
                              Hi Gutted, just wondering how things are for you right now?

                              I know you started on Neogenic a while ago - you keeping that up?
                              Do you think you are seeing more/accelerated re-growth since incorporating it?

                              If so I might give it a try on my hairline & crown. They are both VERY thin areas for me at the moment and I'll try anything that could possibly aid results.

                              Thanks.
                              ive been applying to hairline and temples only. i havent seen anything...
                              it probably is bullshit. Although temples and hairline are the hardest to treat even with fin and minox, i would also assume neogenic is ineffective n this region too (or maybe ineffective as a whole) i wouldnt bother applying it anymore but since i only have a few left i will finish the remianing vials i have left and not reorder this.

                              with the msm combo i am recovering the hairs that i have shed previously and the diffusness is filling in as well as my shed rate going down to normal levels, i will give another update in 6 months time.

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                              • Irishamerica
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 20

                                Originally posted by gutted
                                ive been applying to hairline and temples only. i havent seen anything...
                                it probably is bullshit. Although temples and hairline are the hardest to treat even with fin and minox, i would also assume neogenic is ineffective n this region too (or maybe ineffective as a whole) i wouldnt bother applying it anymore but since i only have a few left i will finish the remianing vials i have left and not reorder this.

                                with the msm combo i am recovering the hairs that i have shed previously and the diffusness is filling in as well as my shed rate going down to normal levels, i will give another update in 6 months time.


                                Gutted thanks for the help and continually responding people to help ...I am 27 year old NW1/NW2 ...was using nizoral for the past 6 months and have not experinced any major shedding ....I am now wiser and have made the move from all SLS shampoo etc i use an organic shampoo called sukin here are the ingredients (Aqua, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Cocoamidopropyl Betaine, Decyl Glucoside, PEG-150 Pentaerythrityl Tetrastearate, Equisetum Arvense Extract (Horsetail), Arctium Lappa Extract (Burdock), Urtica Dioica Extract (Nettle), Phenoxyethanol, Benzyl Alcohol, Citrus Tangerina (Tangerine) Peel Oil, Citrus Nobilis (Mandarin Orange) Peel Oil, Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) Oil, Vanilla Planifolia Extract, Citric Acid, Linalool,* Limonene)

                                basically i have good thiick hair ATM but experince ithcness and plus my dad is fully bald so wont to stop it before it starts ..

                                I just ordered Reganpure DL and and nt to replace the niz and plan on using it with MSm and VItc that i started taking last week .I read your older posts so just want to see your thoughts of this combo .I am not looking to regrow just to maintin ,


                                also th VIt c i order was is 100% vit c which is organic and made from wild berries instead of just the absorbic acid ( as i read you need you need the whole vit c not just absorbic acid ...any thoughts

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