Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

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  • Jcm800
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2614

    Originally posted by gutted
    this or the next month is when your regime really starts. give it 3/6 months and update.
    I'm hoping mate. Might be a crazy idea but thinking of using minox once a day on my crown, it's thinning, becoming noticeable.

    Do you think it'd hinder this regime or have a better chance of working? Applying forever doesn't phase me but having a Friar Tuck crown does..

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    • Cob984
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 526

      I pray you are right gutted, i am having to resort to a combover now for the first time in my life to cover my thinning, I am toast if this fails

      Anyway im using revivogen and drinking just 1 glass of soymilk+ 100 mg green tea extract
      and once a week niz

      No more oral dht inhibitors
      Do you think i can take 4 trx2s a day? Im scared as hell and dont care about cost, will this do any harm? maybe take 4 for a month then back down to 3?

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      • gutted
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1397

        Originally posted by Jcm800
        I'm hoping mate. Might be a crazy idea but thinking of using minox once a day on my crown, it's thinning, becoming noticeable.

        Do you think it'd hinder this regime or have a better chance of working? Applying forever doesn't phase me but having a Friar Tuck crown does..
        dude trust me, all the hairs you are seeing "shed" (not "lose") would have shed anyway. They will return. If you add minox, it'll only make you go through another shed for another couple of months. < - this ends up becoming a cycle of shedding that makes mpb much worser than it should be!
        i bet you half of the people on here are mistakeningly attributing "shedding" of hairs to mpb progression!

        stick with it for another 3/6 months from now, with nothing else used apart from what you are on now, if you see nothing, then you still have minox as an option.

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        • gutted
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1397

          Originally posted by Cob984
          I pray you are right gutted, i am having to resort to a combover now for the first time in my life to cover my thinning, I am toast if this fails

          Anyway im using revivogen and drinking just 1 glass of soymilk+ 100 mg green tea extract
          and once a week niz

          No more oral dht inhibitors
          Do you think i can take 4 trx2s a day? Im scared as hell and dont care about cost, will this do any harm? maybe take 4 for a month then back down to 3?
          i think your going to be wasting time on this regime mate. You are better off supressing dht through sp or fin since this is the avenue you want to go through. Ive reiterated this fact many times, dont expect visible/cosmetic results, which is what you want. I have tried sp/androgen inhibition along with the combo, for 6 months, it did not work to combat the sheds, although it kept the itching/oiliness slightley under control. The process that occurs from doing this is too potent for this combo to address and you will continue to shed like shit! trust me on this.

          drop the niz - use a tgel shampoo.
          drop soy +green tea extract.

          taking 4 caps trx2 wont hurt and 9 grams msm/1 grams vit c - then lower your msm intake if you want to,to 6 grams msm after a few months.

          If you still want to use the niz/soy +green tea extract, then please state that you are using this in your posts as this can affect results.

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          • Cob984
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 526

            dude i think you are getting a bit carried away? im using niz 1ce a week? thats all
            and ok ill drop the green tea extract but i naturally enjoy green tea and soy so i am going to continue with that in normal quantities which is probably too little to do anything
            its not like im inhaling equol capsules

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            • gutted
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1397

              Originally posted by Cob984
              dude i think you are getting a bit carried away? im using niz 1ce a week? thats all
              and ok ill drop the green tea extract but i naturally enjoy green tea and soy so i am going to continue with that in normal quantities which is probably too little to do anything
              its not like im inhaling equol capsules
              lool, ok kool, let us know how you get on, remember it takes about 3/6 months to notice something.

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              • yeahyeahyeah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1776

                What is wrong with an oily scalp?

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                • gutted
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1397

                  Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                  What is wrong with an oily scalp?
                  it implies dht/androgens are wreaking havoc on your sebaceous glands <- i find that this is a very reliable indicator that mpb is still working in the background.

                  the backs and the sides are not as oily as much as the top is in mpb scalps nor do they have as much dandruff as the top. see for yourself.

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                  • Jcm800
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2614

                    Must admit my scalp has improved since adopting this regime, just hope hairs will reappear on the sparse areas in due course :-)

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                    • ovoxo
                      Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 72

                      Originally posted by gutted
                      dude trust me, all the hairs you are seeing "shed" (not "lose") would have shed anyway. They will return. If you add minox, it'll only make you go through another shed for another couple of months. < - this ends up becoming a cycle of shedding that makes mpb much worser than it should be!
                      i bet you half of the people on here are mistakeningly attributing "shedding" of hairs to mpb progression!

                      stick with it for another 3/6 months from now, with nothing else used apart from what you are on now, if you see nothing, then you still have minox as an option.
                      i've been using minox now for about two months, didn't see any shed yet, i've been on msm and vit c for about month and a half (i guess itching has lowered but still present), so i don't know if I should drop minox or not. If it regrows some hair, then I think msm/vit c will keep it(if it really works), and then later maybe I'll drop minox.

                      Any ideas?

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                      • gutted
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1397

                        Originally posted by Jcm800
                        Must admit my scalp has improved since adopting this regime, just hope hairs will reappear on the sparse areas in due course :-)
                        it will,the sheds will lessen over the next few weeks first then the hairs previously shed in the last 3 months will return in due course. Just dont get impatient and get on minox again, it will cause you to shed again.

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                        • gutted
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1397

                          Originally posted by ovoxo
                          i've been using minox now for about two months, didn't see any shed yet, i've been on msm and vit c for about month and a half (i guess itching has lowered but still present), so i don't know if I should drop minox or not. If it regrows some hair, then I think msm/vit c will keep it(if it really works), and then later maybe I'll drop minox.

                          Any ideas?
                          thats odd, almost everyone notices a shed on minox.

                          how much msm/vit c do you take?

                          and the chemicals that are in minox can give you a "normal itching here and there" but not the "mpb itch"

                          If you drop the minox, the msm/vitc your on may or may not keep it, this is something that i suspect can happen but nothing concrete and would like to find out.

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                          • ovoxo
                            Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 72

                            9g of msm, 4g vit c;

                            maybe the shed will appear later or i don't know. About the itching, I experience itching not just in the mpb regions it's all over the scalp and I guess it's about year now that I'm aware of it.

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                            • gutted
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1397

                              Originally posted by ovoxo
                              9g of msm, 4g vit c;

                              maybe the shed will appear later or i don't know. About the itching, I experience itching not just in the mpb regions it's all over the scalp and I guess it's about year now that I'm aware of it.
                              even the back and sides? is your hair oily?

                              also what shampoo do you use?

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                              • ovoxo
                                Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 72

                                yes even back and sides; I use neutrogena tgel shampoo

                                had my scalp checked twice for seborrhoeic dermatitis, dermatologist said that my scalp is fine, as for the oiliness you could say that it is oily, with dandruff; also I have oily forehead

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