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  • gutted
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1397

    Originally posted by MrBlonde
    Again thanks.

    I find it a little worrying when you say shedding has returned to normal levels though. Do you mean the shed levels before you added those supplements whilst only on TRX2/VITC/MSM? thus you shed on this combo
    i mean the shed levels prior to adding the new supplements during may to august. This has returned the shed levels i was enjoying prior to introducing these new supplments.

    Originally posted by MrBlonde
    I remember you saying results are slow in the hairline region and around the 3 month mark you see a reduction in shedding, do we need to allow extra time for hairline shedding results? Thats the only place I'm shedding right now.
    Results are slow in this region, however results can be expected in this region too, you would need to give it time, the first tthing to do is calm sheds down. This should be eveident between 3-6 months.

    Originally posted by MrBlonde
    So has this combo ever stopped shedding completely in all areas or merely slowed it down and you have occasional sheds? Shedding and growing seems a bit weird to me. Your gaining only to loose again, the pic example you posted though is a definite gain.
    stopping shedding completey is something that isnt possible... shedding is normal. It brings hair sheds down to one that is at pre mpb levels, which is what we need. No occasional sheds, just consistent lower levels of sheds. Its all about the shed rate Vs growth rate.

    Originally posted by MrBlonde
    You were using Rogaine/Minox with this also though right?
    no i dont use minox. Minox isnt neccassary with the combo.

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    • Ted
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 156

      Gutted: Have you noticed any change in erection quality or libido?

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      • gutted
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1397

        Originally posted by Ted
        Gutted: Have you noticed any change in erection quality or libido?
        no not really.

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        • Ted
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 156

          Originally posted by gutted
          no not really.
          Sorry for being personal but I have some problems and try to find where it comes from.
          Are your erection quality and libido good?

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          • gutted
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1397

            Originally posted by Ted
            Sorry for being personal but I have some problems and try to find where it comes from.
            Are your erection quality and libido good?
            yeah everythings good, nothing out of the ordinary down there. What are you on?

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            • Ted
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 156

              Originally posted by gutted
              yeah everythings good, nothing out of the ordinary down there. What are you on?
              Minox, trx2, msm, omega 3, d-vitamine and multivitamine. Stopped using finasteride and retin a 1,5 years ago.

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              • Jcm800
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2614

                Gutted-I was thinking of getting back on Minox (I still have loads left) before the dread shed hits me big time.

                What do you think? I was just thinking now that I don't smoke and am also on this regime that it actually may be of benefit. Plus I do think I'm losing ground and the dread shed is starting so I'm panicking slightly..

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                • gutted
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1397

                  Originally posted by Ted
                  Minox, trx2, msm, omega 3, d-vitamine and multivitamine. Stopped using finasteride and retin a 1,5 years ago.
                  it could be the left over effects of fin? or perhaps the omega 3.

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                  • gutted
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1397

                    Originally posted by Jcm800
                    Gutted-I was thinking of getting back on Minox (I still have loads left) before the dread shed hits me big time.

                    What do you think? I was just thinking now that I don't smoke and am also on this regime that it actually may be of benefit. Plus I do think I'm losing ground and the dread shed is starting so I'm panicking slightly..
                    you should try 9 grams msm and 2-4grams vitc to see if this can combat the dread shed either way im pretty confident the hairs will return a few months down the line if you stick with it and be consistent.

                    The shed is the result of hairs that were going to exit anyway. These will normalise if you stick with it. Or else you will end up in this cycle of shedding and not shedding due to stopping and starting treatments.

                    Your off the minox for how long now?

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                    • MrBlonde
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 261

                      Whats the dread shed? Are you talking about the shed that comes with any treatment you start?

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                      • gutted
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1397

                        Originally posted by MrBlonde
                        Whats the dread shed? Are you talking about the shed that comes with any treatment you start?
                        the massive shed that occurs when a person gets off of minoxidil. Most people percieve this to be a sign that they are going bald when in actual fact those hairs have the possibility to return at a later date. Its mereley a simple telogen efflevium.

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                        • Jcm800
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 2614

                          Originally posted by gutted
                          you should try 9 grams msm and 2-4grams vitc to see if this can combat the dread shed either way im pretty confident the hairs will return a few months down the line if you stick with it and be consistent.

                          The shed is the result of hairs that were going to exit anyway. These will normalise if you stick with it. Or else you will end up in this cycle of shedding and not shedding due to stopping and starting treatments.

                          Your off the minox for how long now?
                          I've been off Minox approx 2 months. I'm taking Vit C powder in orange juice daily and knocking back the msm caps, currently 8 per day but shall move up to 9 now.

                          Fingers crossed, can't say I've seen any improvement tbh so far though. Still have scalp itch and flakes/dandruff.

                          Shall stick at it religiously tho.

                          You wouldn't recommend getting back on Minox then?

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                          • Ted
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 156

                            Originally posted by gutted
                            it could be the left over effects of fin? or perhaps the omega 3.
                            The omega 3? Have never heard that omega 3 is bad for erections.

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                            • gutted
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1397

                              Originally posted by Ted
                              The omega 3? Have never heard that omega 3 is bad for erections.
                              yes depends on the dose i guess.
                              omega 3 has been shown to affect androgens.

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                              • eternal
                                Junior Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 3

                                Ingredient List

                                Hey guys,
                                I'm trying to put together an ingredient list because I can't afford trx2.

                                But I'm having a hard time finding dosages to match trx2's ratios.

                                And I'm also having a hard time finding supplements that don't have a bunch of extra ingredients added.

                                For example, I can get Biotin in 350 mcg tablets, which I can split in half to match trx2's 150 mcg dose. But the other ingredients are: Dicalcium Phosphate, Vegetable Cellulose, Vegetable Stearic Acid, Croscarmellose, Silica, Vegetable Magnesium Stearate. Seems like a lot of extra stuff but I don't know what any of it does or how it might affect the "combo". Is there even such a thing as pure Biotin?

                                Is anyone else making their own blend (preferably in the States to keep shipping costs down) who can provide links to where you're buying from? I'm desperate to get started on this regimen but want to make sure I'm doing it right.

                                A starter list would be enormously useful in helping people jump in to this program.

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