If it were PGD2.....

[2020]

this is why i said if you address the inflammation which is why there is elevated pgd2 in the first place the histogen hairs will last forever.

if you remove PGD2 you would get full regrowth anyways due to your natural growth factors operating as usual without Histogen so I don't see why you would need Histogen at all...

My point is that Histogen WON'T reverse your MPB but rather just provide your follicles with one last cycle. I wasn't planning on using MPB treatments after Histogen injection so this sucks

[2020]

You arent understanding what minutrisation means. There is no minuturisation going on in the hair cycle. There is only decreased and increased growth/proliferation of hair cells during the different cycles.

miniaturization, shrinkage whatever. Read this post:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=69817&postcount=52

FOLLICLE SIZE naturally changes as it goes from cycle to cycle. DO YOU AGREE?

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that is the assumption for most of you, but I'm saying no. Why would they be able to regenerate again? PGD2 is still there and it probably supresses all the natural growth factors that your body provides... this is getting hopeless but no one understands me

this is why i said if you address the inflammation which is why there is elevated pgd2 in the first place the histogen hairs will last forever.

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what for? I responded with: your body is able to enlarge and shrink follicles based on whatever cycle it's currently on. non-balding people can't do that - the follicle is stuck in resting phase.
HISTOGEN can provide some growing that will enlarge follicles again for ONE ANAGANE PHASE AGAIN but once it goes into telogen phase, you won't have the capability to turn them into anagen hair again....

why can't you understand what I'm saying?

cause you are talking out out of your ass!!! loooool

minutrisation is a term used to describe progressiev thinning of hair follciles and only occurs in mpb.

You arent understanding what minutrisation means. There is no minuturisation going on in the hair cycle. There is only decreased and increased growth/proliferation of hair cells during the different cycles.

After the telogen cycle - and during the "early anagen" the new hair follcile that is formed in MPB is minutuarised. This is progressive in mpb.

Stop going on about histogen. Histogen can last forever, if you know your stuff.

[2020]

dht wont be a problem after age 40-50 if that is the time you get the histogen injections.

probably sure...

they will be able to regenerate again on thier own.

that is the assumption for most of you, but I'm saying no. Why would they be able to regenerate again? PGD2 is still there and it probably supresses all the natural growth factors that your body provides... this is getting hopeless but no one understands me

[2020]

use this for your info -

http://www.hshairclinic.co.uk/hair-l...ir/hair-cycle/

what for? I responded with: your body is able to enlarge and shrink follicles based on whatever cycle it's currently on. non-balding people can't do that - the follicle is stuck in resting phase.
HISTOGEN can provide some growing that will enlarge follicles again for ONE ANAGANE PHASE AGAIN but once it goes into telogen phase, you won't have the capability to turn them into anagen hair again....

why can't you understand what I'm saying?

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how did you get 2-3 cycles? and i'm not talking about further miniaturisation due to DHT or whatever but rather from the fact that your follicles aren't able to regenerate again after a telogen phase

dht wont be a problem after age 40-50 if that is the time you get the histogen injections.

they will be able to regenerate again on thier own.

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^ this is what I'm talking about. follicle size changes depending on which phase the hair is currently on. This is why Histogen would only be able to give you ONE ANAGEN CYCLE and after that all of your hair will fall out

use this for your info -

http://www.hshairclinic.co.uk/hair-loss/all-about-hair/hair-cycle/

[2020]

it will last 2/3 cycles, but expect minuturisation to take place after the 1st cycle.

how did you get 2-3 cycles? and i'm not talking about further miniaturisation due to DHT or whatever but rather from the fact that your follicles aren't able to regenerate again after a telogen phase

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yes but my point is that those growth factors will only last one hair cycle...

it will last 2/3 cycles, but expect minuturisation to take place after the 1st cycle.

[2020]

histogen works, how? i dont know, it supplies the growth factors neccasary for the hairs to regrow thick hair - yes it obviously affects the prostglandin cascade...it has to, everything is interrealted through negative feedback mechanims etc.

yes but my point is that those growth factors will only last one hair cycle...

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and how would Histogen stop that inflammation?

dude why do you keep on going on about histogen.

histogen works, how? i dont know, it supplies the growth factors neccasary for the hairs to regrow thick hair - yes it obviously affects the prostglandin cascade...it has to, everything is interrealted through negative feedback mechanims etc.

the hairs will last a very long time, but you need to address the inflammation yourself for it to last a lifetime. If you dont, it will begin to minuturise again, but hey...why would you worry about inflamation when you know you can inflame th f*** out of those follciles and still know you can get those follciles back through another histogen injection...

[2020]

Anagen Phase: The anagen phase is the “growing” phase of a
hair follicle. It begins with a miniaturized hair follicle that may or may
not have recently shed the hair it was growing during the previous
growth cycle. At the beginning of the anagen phase, the hair follicle
starts to grow back to full size and extend deeper into the skin.

Catagen Phase: Following the anagen phase, the hair stops
growing and the hair follicle starts shrinking.

Telogen Phase: After the hair follicle has stopped shrinking, it
enters the telogen or “resting” phase, which lasts for another three
months, or so.

^ this is what I'm talking about. follicle size changes depending on which phase the hair is currently on. This is why Histogen would only be able to give you ONE ANAGEN CYCLE and after that all of your hair will fall out

[2020]

what do you mean skrinks? it doesn shrink, the hairs eject itself out during telogen.

why is it so hard to understand???

THIS IS HOW HAIR WORKS FOR ALL PEOPLE:

when the hair is in telogen phase, its follicle size is tiny, but once something tells that follicle to start growing hair again, its size increases and the follicle start making hair again(anagen phase)

yes or no? follicle size goes up and down depending on what cycle it's on. this is just a fact why don't you know that?

[2020]

pgd2 is also upregulated inflammatory sites. Since inflamation is also part of mpb this would in effect triple pgd2 levels in balding scalp!!! Normal levels of pgd2 are not harmful at all, they regulate the hair cycle, its the excess pgd2 from the infalamtion which is the problem!

and how would Histogen stop that inflammation?