If it were PGD2.....

[2020]

Your saying that because histogen supplied the initial growth factors for the hairs to regrow/regenerate then we would need to continuously supply the hairs with those histogen growth factors for it to regenerate again?

yes, because your body provides those growth factors naturally before hair enters anagen phase. For bald people that doesn't happen and that's why those hairs stay permanently in telogen phase.

Histogen CAN provide those growth factors to artificially simulate another anagen phase for you, but after that phase is over your body couldn't reproduce those growth factors again for another phase so you would need Histogen growth factors again....

Histogen == +1 extra hair cycle which actually sucks really bad I'm not sure if they know it themselves

[gutted]

exactly why the **** didn't Spencer ask this question during their 40 minute interview:

what makes you think a follicle will start a second cycle after growth factors for the first cycle stop working?

I changed my position from optimistic to we're all ****ed...

i think i know what you are trying to say with histogen.

Your saying that because histogen supplied the initial growth factors for the hairs to regrow/regenerate then we would need to continuously supply the hairs with those histogen growth factors for it to regenerate again?

[gutted]

right, so I'm guessing 100% of people didn't know that actual follicle size changes from cycle to cycle... that makes Histogen and all other stimulants useless

http://www.hairdoc.com/book/Chapter_...ss_answers.pdf

dude you are misinterpreting what they are saying.

They miean minuturisation as the follcile starts to stop production and begins to "regress" or "minuturise".

When its time to regenerate during early anagen the hair follcile begins to grow back to normal size but in mpb individuals the size of the follicle develops/regenerates partially minuturised and not to full size.

histogen will last a decent length of time if inflamation is addressed. If not it will last probably 2/3 hair cycles, until it becomes dormant again.

[neversaynever]

Nice interview with Dr Cots....

http://www.aad.org/dermatology-world/monthly-archives/2012/june/can-blocking-pgd2-prevent-androgenetic-alopecia-

[neversaynever]

But that doesnt deal with the fact there is excessive PGD2 around balding follicles. So maybe itll help early to moderate baldness. In which case, discussions should halt until people start trying it.

There is too much missing pieces to know how long HSC would last. Too be honest, if the price is right, if one HSC treatment buys you at least 2 years...id be happy.

And they are getting great results, better than anything we've ever seen in hair loss treatments, so I find it hard to be negative about them.

Unless maybe its that binding to the receptor that causes the malfunction, and pgd2 is over expressed? That would indicate that blocking this receptor is the key!

[neversaynever]

I don't think it's a question of blocking PGD2 completely, it's about stopping it binding to a certain receptor, the receptor that OC000459 targets, so you won't be affecting its positive effects on hair cycling.

But that doesnt deal with the fact there is excessive PGD2 around balding follicles. So maybe itll help early to moderate baldness. In which case, discussions should halt until people start trying it.

There is too much missing pieces to know how long HSC would last. Too be honest, if the price is right, if one HSC treatment buys you at least 2 years...id be happy.

And they are getting great results, better than anything we've ever seen in hair loss treatments, so I find it hard to be negative about them.

[Ryan333]

I don't think it's a question of blocking PGD2 completely, it's about stopping it binding to a certain receptor, the receptor that OC000459 targets, so you won't be affecting its positive effects on hair cycling.

[Hairismylife]

exactly why the **** didn't Spencer ask this question during their 40 minute interview:

what makes you think a follicle will start a second cycle after growth factors for the first cycle stop working?

I changed my position from optimistic to we're all ****ed...

Aderans still here

[ccmethinning]

exactly why the **** didn't Spencer ask this question during their 40 minute interview:

what makes you think a follicle will start a second cycle after growth factors for the first cycle stop working?

I changed my position from optimistic to we're all ****ed...

There's still Gho.

[2020]

The histogen charade is over

exactly why the **** didn't Spencer ask this question during their 40 minute interview:

what makes you think a follicle will start a second cycle after growth factors for the first cycle stop working?

I changed my position from optimistic to we're all ****ed...

[ccmethinning]

The histogen charade is over

[2020]

That means Histogen-created follicles won't last for long?

exactly one anagen phase. Once it falls out, you will lose it for good. Since ~100 hairs fall out each day, you will lose those 100 hairs permanently.... scientists are ****ing stupid that's all I have to say

[Hairismylife]

right, so I'm guessing 100% of people didn't know that actual follicle size changes from cycle to cycle... that makes Histogen and all other stimulants useless

http://www.hairdoc.com/book/Chapter_...ss_answers.pdf

That means Histogen-created follicles won't last for long?

[2020]

dude i dont think im going anywhere with you. Link me to the spurce of that info.

right, so I'm guessing 100% of people didn't know that actual follicle size changes from cycle to cycle... that makes Histogen and all other stimulants useless

http://www.hairdoc.com/book/Chapter_02_hair_loss_answers.pdf

[gutted]

miniaturization, shrinkage whatever. Read this post:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=69817&postcount=52

FOLLICLE SIZE naturally changes as it goes from cycle to cycle. DO YOU AGREE?

dude i dont think im going anywhere with you. Link me to the spurce of that info.