Aderans

[goingquick]

From what I can see, Aderans does just as well as propecia, and while probably more expensive in the short term, could very well be cheaper in the long term (propecia ain't cheap).

Propecia will go generic in 2013

edit: Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather get Aderan's treatment than take Propecia, but the cost of finasteride isn't a motivating factor.

[2020]

Neither Aderans nor Replicel will be able to "immunize" follicles from DHT. Just forget about it. This is not how it works.

oh and I'm barely NW2 and improving. I'm not bitter, I'm just disappointed with everyone involved in this industry. So much incompetence...

[mjolnir]

Neither Aderans nor Replicel will be able to "immunize" follicles from DHT. Just forget about it. This is not how it works.

oh and I'm barely NW2 and improving. I'm not bitter, I'm just disappointed with everyone involved in this industry. So much incompetence...

Hmm, if you don't mind my asking, why are you on this site? NW2 isn't that bad, and a slightly recessed hairline can make a guy look more distinguished. Are you worried about side effects from propecia?

I really don't think it's fair to make charges of incompetence. Hair follicles are complicated little things, and the fact that these companies are even accomplishing anything at all is kind of amazing from a scientific standpoint, even if not from a practical one. Given that's is a purely cosmetic problem, and given the state of things just a few decades ago, I really think you should reconsider your cynicism. Or if nothing else, maybe take a break from the forums for a bit - there's an extent to which the less often I check this site, the less I actually care about the fact that I have a bald spot; constantly reminding yourself isn't good if you're not getting anything positive out of it.

[hellouser]

Neither Aderans nor Replicel will be able to "immunize" follicles from DHT. Just forget about it. This is not how it works.

oh and I'm barely NW2 and improving. I'm not bitter, I'm just disappointed with everyone involved in this industry. So much incompetence...

You may claim to not be bitter but you're undeniably pessimistic and negative on just about every matter there is on this forum.

[clarence]

Geez NW2 is not much of a problem for some hairstyles, but it effectively limited me from having a shorter kind of hairstyle throughout my 20s. An attempt to get the crew cut of your dreams will in the worst case reveal a severely thinning NW3, even if you could pull off a full-blown NW1-look with a longer set of locks provided, that the wind is on your side.

[Alf]

oh and I'm barely NW2 and improving.

???

10char

[mjolnir]

Geez NW2 is not much of a problem for some hairstyles, but it effectively limited me from having a shorter kind of hairstyle throughout my 20s. An attempt to get the crew cut of your dreams will in the worst case reveal a severely thinning NW3, even if you could pull off a full-blown NW1-look with a longer set of locks provided, that the wind is on your side.

I don't think people should have to hide the fact that they're a NW2. If you're nearing a NW3 and have the start of a bald spot, then sure, it doesn't always look great. But if you're just a NW2, only the most shallow of the shallow are going to care, or even consciously notice the fact that your temples have receded a bit. It's like some (don't want to over generalize) women and shoes - they care about them a lot more than any potential mate is ever going to. I've known women who will completely obsess about it, and yet I don't think I have ever, in my entire life, judged the attractiveness of a woman based on her footwear. Again, if you have a severe bald spot, that can look pretty awkward and unattractive, but I think there's a lot of room before you hit that threshold, or at least more room than a lot of the people on this forum think there is.

edit: also, in case anyone were curious, I'm probably around a 3V, though with the right styling I can pretty much hide the thin patch completely. Don't really care about my temples - those went years ago. But the diffuse thinning snuck up on me (infrequent haircuts, and the fact that most people are too polite to mention that they can see your scalp), and by the time I even became aware of the existence of Propecia (why don't they advertise?) it was too late to really reverse anything in any substantial way.

[ihavebeenchosenithasbegun]

All I need is something to replace finpecia when it'll stop working.

If Aderans can do that, that's amazing and good enough for me.

[mjolnir]

All I need is something to replace finpecia when it'll stop working.

If Aderans can do that, that's amazing to me.

You ever consider just making your peace with it at that point? Obviously hair loss bothers me - I'm on this site, and I like knowing that things are in the works - but I also would like to think that in a few more years I won't really care any more. Shaved heads are becoming more acceptable, and there is some truth to the idea of inner beauty being what really counts.

[ihavebeenchosenithasbegun]

You ever consider just making your peace with it at that point? Obviously hair loss bothers me - I'm on this site, and I like knowing that things are in the works - but I also would like to think that in a few more years I won't really care any more. Shaved heads are becoming more acceptable, and there is some truth to the idea of inner beauty being what really counts.

Idk, we'll see.

Still crossing my fingers that something like that will be out when it starts to loss it's effectiveness.

[Pate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_JHbtXJ0a8

Aderans presentation from Stem Cell Meeting on the Mesa.

Like always, very disappointing results. Sorry, guys.

Let's just hope that Dr. Cole is actually able to regenerate donor using ACell... looks like that's our only hope at this point.

So basically they appear to be struggling to grow hair on slick bald areas. We know its possible to do because Replicel did it on mouse footpads, but on humans apparently it's trickier.

I suspect the reason may be because on slick bald scalp the fat layers and blood vessels needed to support the hair follicle organs atrophy, so it's like trying to grow plants on bare rock instead of soil.

Which raises an interesting possibility - what if they do it in a transplanted area where the fat and blood vessels have already regenerated? Also, what about diffuse thinning? Ji Gami may work much better in these cases.

But the holy grail of good regrowth on slick bald scalp obviously continues to elude us.

[UK_]

@Joker,

Gho + Aderans in crown and transplanted areas = hair loss cured.

[inspects]

Have you folks ever watched this Video from Dateline NBC News regarding hair loss?

Interesting video, especially the results from the man just using Propecia. The product certainly lives up to its claims, it has helped me immensely.

Personally I think Alderans has a long time before anything comes to fruition, just FDA approval usually can take years, and their not finished with trials, nor have they shown any significant results.

I would have to agree with the people who think Histogen will probably be the next product actually on the market in the years ahead.

[rdawg]

So what was the basic news overall today guys?

good? bad? somewhat good?

approval for phase 3 happening soon or is this going in the trash?

[inspects]

good? bad? somewhat good?

Depends on what your opinion is...did you read much of what was posted?

Not good in my unscientific mind.