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when is their supposed announcement?
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Interesting - thanks.
when is their supposed announcement?
November 04, 2012 8:00 am • Bradley J. Fikes wrote:
I guess they are still looking where they can find any effectiveness in any trail subject.Aderans Research Institute: Your own hair, back again. That’s the allure of Atlanta-based Aderans’ Ji Gami hair growth process. Patients donate hair-containing skin from their neck, and Aderans cultivates the hair follicle-forming cells. These cells are then injected back into the patient.
The cells stimulate new hair production in dormant hair follicles, working on male or female pattern baldness, said Aderans Chief Executive Ken Washenik. They have been tested in animals and are now being tested in people.
“When we inject this mixture of dermal and epidermal cells … we find that the cells intercalate (integrate) into existing hair follicle structures and reprogram them or turn them back on,” Washenik said at his company’s presentation.
Aderans has performed Phase 1 safety studies on Ji Gami, and has now started Phase 2 studies, looking for effectiveness.Comment
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Yes and the cells also come together to form new hair follicles just like Replicel found.
So no reason why this couldnt be combined with a HT to give natural density that cant be typically achieved by a conventional hair transplant.
That's what we want, a cell based hair transplant that can offer an unlimited supply of growth.Comment
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yes, and the waiting game still on!!!Comment
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Hey guys, not sure exactly when this is from, but ARI hired this company in December of 2011, so the testimonial had to come from sometime in 2012:
"We're a 10 year old biotech that's still a couple years away from having a commercial product."
That sounds pretty consistent with the 2014 timeline, although it's unclear if that means having a product on shelves or just having a final product to continue testing. I would *guess* that it means having a product on shelves since they are testing different formulations of products already, but it could mean that there are a couple more years of Phase 2 before a commercial product will go to Phase 3.
Anyways, it's a new piece of substantive info that I thought I would share to get your thoughts.Comment
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Also the director of clinical and regulatory affairs for Aderans is participating in a summit about clinical trial documentation. Not particularly helpful to us, but I guess it shows that Aderans is active in the community.
Just wish they would hurry up.... :/Comment
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Also found this, lol. Per the "suggestions for management" section, apparently they don't tell their employees very much information either. At least we aren't the only ones being kept in the dark!Comment
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Thanks, Desmond. I do my best! Frankly, I wish I didn't have to... but at this point, all we can go on is bits and pieces of random information. Any word from Spencer on his potential interview w/ Ken Washenik?Comment
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Aderans presentation from Stem Cell Meeting on the Mesa.
Like always, very disappointing results. Sorry, guys.
Let's just hope that Dr. Cole is actually able to regenerate donor using ACell... looks like that's our only hope at this point.Comment
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But before I get too negative, I should mention that if this treatment is compoundable (and Doc Washenik says it should be) it could actually lead to some pretty good outcomes, especially when combined with transplants.
Also, if the new hairs which are created are androgen resistant forever, that could be really helpful.
So it's not all bad news. It's not shocking regrowth, but with compoundability and androgen resistance it could actually be a great treatment potentially.
PS, did anyone notice that the little gun thing said Phase 3 underneath? I guess that's a good sign.Comment
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Looks like a visible improvement. Technology takes time, and a weak proof of concept is a heck of a lot better than nothing at all. The takeaway here is that these regenerative techniques work for growing hair. Now it's just a question of seeing how far it can be taken.
That said, I'm still hoping for Histogen. Aderans still requires a biopsy to collect your cells, and I don't think I'd be comfortable with a procedure that's going to leave permanent scaring.Comment
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Three cheers to Joker
First of all, thanks Joker for being such a great journalist! No new info will ever get past you brother
TBH, this 15 minute presentation was groundbreaking in my opinion! We have finally found a way to make follicles resistant to DHT without having systemic side effects the way Propecia does. Welcome to 21st century ladies and gentlemen
On a side note, the key to getting a great response was to still have semi-miniaturised follicles rather than bald spots! So, it is vital to remain on DHT blockers for as long as possible to prevent any further miniaturisation until we get to Aderans!
Also, sadly, Washenik had no intention to announce that Phase 2 trials are almost over meaning there may be more Phase 2 trials to come! Oh well, it's out of our hands I suppose! Now, we just have to be patientComment
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First of all, thanks Joker for being such a great journalist! No new info will ever get past you brother
TBH, this 15 minute presentation was groundbreaking in my opinion! We have finally found a way to make follicles resistant to DHT without having systemic side effects the way Propecia does. Welcome to 21st century ladies and gentlemen
On a side note, the key to getting a great response was to still have semi-miniaturised follicles rather than bald spots! So, it is vital to remain on DHT blockers for as long as possible to prevent any further miniaturisation until we get to Aderans!
Also, sadly, Washenik had no intention to announce that Phase 2 trials are almost over meaning there may be more Phase 2 trials to come! Oh well, it's out of our hands I suppose! Now, we just have to be patient
If it can do that, it's an absolute win for me.
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