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  • inspects
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 260

    Originally posted by Desmond84
    OK guys,

    This is a serious question that I've been asking myself lately so plz share your thoughts:

    "Do you think, if we don't hear from Aderans by April 2013 and they decide to do another Phase 2 trial that we could safely say our generation of hairloss sufferers missed out on this cutting edge technology?"

    I certainly do think so, especially since I'm not planning on taking fin on a long-term basis (i.e. till 2020)

    What are your thoughts?
    Desmond,

    I sent Dr W. an email last Friday, asking if he had any idea of a time-frame in mind, but just looking at their website and PR releases I don't see anything happening for at least a couple more years.

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    • inspects
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 260

      Originally posted by inspects
      They claim there was significant hair growth in half of the study participants, not sure that they consider significant.
      I'd like to know what they consider "Significant" in their studies...100 follicles, 1000?

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      • Alf
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 91

        Originally posted by inspects
        I'd like to know what they consider "Significant" in their studies...100 follicles, 1000?
        Joker said earlier that they got 13 or more hairs per cm^2 for halft the participants, and he says his source is the 2010 presebtation.

        But there are no picure evidence, at least not regular pictures.

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        • inspects
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 260

          Originally posted by Alf
          Joker said earlier that they got 13 or more hairs per cm^2 for halft the participants, and he says his source is the 2010 presebtation.

          But there are no picure evidence, at least not regular pictures.
          So much for that product....

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          • Alf
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 91

            Originally posted by inspects
            So much for that product....
            If you think of the information given by aderans to the public, I would say that the program has no chace of success.
            The reason I believe in aderans is because of the rumours on the internet. One user who I believe is telling the truth who said that he got 5 real hairs(not vellus)(he didn't say the area size, but he had 20 from before and said he had diffuse hair loss so I would guess he thought about cm^2) The results were from phase 1 and only one treatment.
            2. are the labs talking about phase 3 and saying on telephone? that the product works(to some degree).

            But we will soon find the truth, either they start phase 3 next year or they don't.

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            • inspects
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 260

              Originally posted by Alf
              If you think of the information given by aderans to the public, I would say that the program has no chace of success.
              The reason I believe in aderans is because of the rumours on the internet. One user who I believe is telling the truth who said that he got 5 real hairs(not vellus)(he didn't say the area size, but he had 20 from before and said he had diffuse hair loss so I would guess he thought about cm^2) The results were from phase 1 and only one treatment.
              2. are the labs talking about phase 3 and saying on telephone? that the product works(to some degree).

              But we will soon find the truth, either they start phase 3 next year or they don't.
              Alf,

              Its one of those gigs they hope could work, but prolly won't....

              Some company will eventually find something, but in the next five-ten years I doubt anything will transpire regarding regrowth of existing follicles.

              I have my doubts about Histrogen too, but that's just me, I'm sure others have their fingers crossed.

              Transplant, Hair System, or Bust......!

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              • Dan26
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 1270

                Originally posted by inspects
                Alf,

                Its one of those gigs they hope could work, but prolly won't....

                Some company will eventually find something, but in the next five-ten years I doubt anything will transpire regarding regrowth of existing follicles.

                I have my doubts about Histrogen too, but that's just me, I'm sure others have their fingers crossed.

                Transplant, Hair System, or Bust......!
                I personally do not even concern myself with any of these companies release dates, because things could always change. I can say though based on my knowledge and the opinions of people I hold in high regard, that if, for example, things like CB (an anti-androgen), Histogen (growth factors), and something to address PDG2 come to market, it SHOULD create regrowth. The science and the safety are the most important things. If you browse forums and see people who are really into fighting hairloss, who go as far to inject growth factors, you know that these things do work, but there long term sustainability is in question.

                I feel confident in saying that if you are in the beginning stages of hair loss, you should have some hope. I dream of unlimited donor supply one day, but I have a good feeling I can control my hair loss until then.

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                • Alf
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 91

                  Originally posted by inspects
                  Alf,

                  Its one of those gigs they hope could work, but prolly won't....
                  Praying to santa that you are wrong:P

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                  • Alf
                    Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 91

                    Originally posted by Desmond84
                    OK guys,

                    This is a serious question that I've been asking myself lately so plz share your thoughts:

                    "Do you think, if we don't hear from Aderans by April 2013 and they decide to do another Phase 2 trial that we could safely say our generation of hairloss sufferers missed out on this cutting edge technology?"

                    I certainly do think so, especially since I'm not planning on taking fin on a long-term basis (i.e. till 2020)

                    What are your thoughts?
                    No phase 3 and I'm not so sure there will be another phase 2.

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      Why would they go back to Phase II or extend them when theyre finishing up and claimed they would start Phase III in 2013 as well as the clinical trials site stating that as well?

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                      • Joker
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 121

                        When did Aderans claim they would start Phase 3 in 2013? It doesn't say that on the clinical trials site, does it?

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                        • inspects
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 260

                          Originally posted by Dan26
                          I feel confident in saying that if you are in the beginning stages of hair loss, you should have some hope. I dream of unlimited donor supply one day, but I have a good feeling I can control my hair loss until then.
                          Dan,

                          Now that is about the most intelligent response anyone can really say, try to keep what you have until something comes along, its bound to happen some day, but surely not in the near future.

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                          • Dan26
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1270

                            Originally posted by inspects
                            Dan,

                            Now that is about the most intelligent response anyone can really say, try to keep what you have until something comes along, its bound to happen some day, but surely not in the near future.
                            Lol thanks man, BUT I did leave out an important part, which is, some people may need to search past conventional methods to achieve this. There is a reason people do this, usually due to the traditional approved meds not being effective or result in sides. My advice is educate and empower yourself, read the studies and move forward at your own risk, but there are definitely some good alternatives out there, problem is finding the right place to get them.

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                            • Desmond84
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 987

                              Originally posted by inspects
                              Desmond,

                              I sent Dr W. an email last Friday, asking if he had any idea of a time-frame in mind, but just looking at their website and PR releases I don't see anything happening for at least a couple more years.
                              You're amazing brother

                              Let's hope he does reply. Spencer also mentioned last week that he's going to try and record an interview with him. Let's hope we get some kind of info before xmas!

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                              • Alf
                                Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 91

                                Originally posted by inspects
                                Desmond,

                                I sent Dr W. an email last Friday, asking if he had any idea of a time-frame in mind, but just looking at their website and PR releases I don't see anything happening for at least a couple more years.
                                I sent mail t Aderans some time ago with some questions including yours and I never got an answer.

                                Originally posted by inspects
                                Let's hope he does reply. Spencer also mentioned last week that he's going to try and record an interview with him. Let's hope we get some kind of info before xmas!
                                At least Spencer should try to get the date when Aderans will release some information.

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