Aderans

[hellouser]

Hi guys, spoke with the clinical trial coordinator today. I have some news to break.

Our conversation was very short. Applicants need to be off Propecia for at least 1 year to be eligible. Before our conversation ended, however, I asked her how the trial was going. I also asked what phase they were in.

....

Per her knowledge, we're in Phase 3 boys!!!

First she said "I believe this is Phase 3." Then she said "This is Phase 3." And then she said "I guess the only difference is if you get in on this trial they will pay you for the treatment. Otherwise you'll have to wait and then you'll pay them for the treatment."

I would love it if someone else could call their local center to corroborate/verify this.

That put a smile on my face. Do you have a link/telephone number to call again and ask? I'll definitely make a call to see whats going on.

[Joker]

http://www.aderansresearch.com/ari_clinicupdates.html

I just called the one in Florida. I REALLY, REALLY hope she didn't make a mistake.

[hellouser]

http://www.aderansresearch.com/ari_clinicupdates.html

I just called the one in Florida. I REALLY, REALLY hope she didn't make a mistake.

Do you think its possible that some of the labs are in Phase III and others still in Phase II?

[Joker]

That's an interesting question. I *hope* that's the case, because that makes sense with what JRQ said (his clinical site was in Phase 2 apparently). Also, it would mean that Aderans is able to run Phase 2 and Phase 3 concurrently, so they can bring multiple treatments to market as they improve efficacy.

I don't really know, just crossing my fingers at this point.

[krewel]

In Aderans case, it's indeed possible. Aderans different Phase II trials were including different derivatives of their Ji-Gami complex, and since we all know that Aderans already finished several Phase II trials, they might be in Phase III, testing one of them already.

But somehow I doubt that. First, because I don't know if Jokers post is legit (no offense ), neither do I know if that person on the phone was't doing a mistake. I also think Aderans would announce such an awesome progress.

Maybe and hopefully I'm wrong.

[hellouser]

In Aderans case, it's indeed possible. Aderans different Phase II trials were including different derivatives of their Ji-Gami complex, and since we all know that Aderans already finished several Phase II trials, they might be in Phase III, testing one of them already.

But somehow I doubt that. First, because I don't know if Jokers post is legit (no offense ), neither do I know if that person on the phone was't doing a mistake. I also think Aderans would announce such an awesome progress.

Maybe and hopefully I'm wrong.

According to this:

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=Aderans

Some of their Phase 2 trials *are* finished, so with the woman saying theyre in Phase 3, its likely that its true. You never know though, she could have just messed up and said something she wasnt supposed to... mistakes happen, and in this case, probably for the better for us.

Theres more and more evidence of Aderans being right on schedule.

[gmonasco]

Also, it would mean that Aderans is able to run Phase 2 and Phase 3 concurrently, so they can bring multiple treatments to market as they improve efficacy.

It doesn't necessarily mean that. It's standard procedure to start screening potential subjects for the next phase of clinical trials while the current stage is still in process so that you don't have an unnecessarily large time gap between the trial stages. In itself such screening doesn't mean that trial phases are (or can be) run concurrently.

[JRQ]

I personally called the SC office of Radiant and was told this screening process was still Phase II. Maybe it's different at different locations, but I really, really don't think so.

[Joker]

Can someone else call another clinical site (or call Florida again) and see what's up? I'm not doubting JRQ at all, and believe me I'm probably the most pessimistic person on this board, but I was definitely told Phase 3 and I want to know if this lady was confused or if we legitimately have a reason to be happy.

[Alf]

It doesn't necessarily mean that. It's standard procedure to start screening potential subjects for the next phase of clinical trials while the current stage is still in process so that you don't have an unnecessarily large time gap between the trial stages. In itself such screening doesn't mean that trial phases are (or can be) run concurrently.

Agreed and Aderans said they would do phase 3 on the best one. But screening for phase 3 would be the greatest news ever no matter if we have to wait a bit before phase 3 starts.

Joker I would have called, but I'm in europe and only have a cell phone, that makes things kind of expencive. But I apprecuate your call and hope someone else would pick up the phone.

[Maradona]

I'd be surprised if they get to phase 3 this/next year that would be a dream come true.

[Maradona]

Agreed and Aderans said they would do phase 3 on the best one. But screening for phase 3 would be the greatest news ever no matter if we have to wait a bit before phase 3 starts.

Joker I would have called, but I'm in europe and only have a cell phone, that makes things kind of expencive. But I apprecuate your call and hope someone else would pick up the phone.

Phase 3 = baldness cured.

[hellouser]

Joker I would have called, but I'm in europe and only have a cell phone, that makes things kind of expencive. But I apprecuate your call and hope someone else would pick up the phone.

I'll call myself tomorrow, I have free minutes to anywhere in the USA.

[hellouser]

I'd be surprised if they get to phase 3 this/next year that would be a dream come true.

If what the woman on the phone said is true and Phase II is done in certain areas, then Phase III could be already going, maybe they meant *all* Phase III trials would be done by 2014 with a commercial product by then?

That said, if things are on schedule for Aderans, which looks like they are, then Phase III should be started by around February/March seeing how the last Phase II trials ends in February.

[Alf]

Phase 3 = baldness cured.

I know

Have already gotten my "Ken Washenik is my homeboy" tshirt.