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  • BoSox
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 697

    The cure is coming soon, let's all rent an apartment like the Mexicans do and save up together. I'm not kidding either.

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    • Alf
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 91

      Originally posted by BoSox
      The cure is coming soon, let's all rent an apartment like the Mexicans do and save up together. I'm not kidding either.
      Like I would share apartment with someone who would mugg me if they got the chance.

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      • Dazza
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 264

        Originally posted by Alf
        Like I would share apartment with someone who would mugg me if they got the chance.
        I lol'd..

        Question, as this treatment is injecting cells into your head creating new hair follicles why is there talk of have a HT and having this? If the New hairfollicles didnt give you full Density You would just get another injection? I'm slightly confused.

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        • Alf
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 91

          Originally posted by Dazza
          Question, as this treatment is injecting cells into your head creating new hair follicles why is there talk of have a HT and having this? If the New hairfollicles didnt give you full Density You would just get another injection? I'm slightly confused.
          Im confused too, but maybe aderans only can give a limited hairs per square inch no matter how many injections or that it is cheaper with combining the two options.

          But some of the participants must soon start posting on the web. I have seen Bald-Half Truth on ************ but he hasn't posted since 2010.
          But some of the phase 2 participants must have gotten several injection to see if you can get a decengt hair dencity.

          You could of course never know if they were telling the truth, but if there were several people telling the same credible story and they had som post before they told about their aderans experience.

          350 participants someone must want to share their hairgain.

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          • krewel
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 187

            Originally posted by Alf
            Im confused too, but maybe aderans only can give a limited hairs per square inch no matter how many injections or that it is cheaper with combining the two options.

            But some of the participants must soon start posting on the web. I have seen Bald-Half Truth on ************ but he hasn't posted since 2010.
            But some of the phase 2 participants must have gotten several injection to see if you can get a decengt hair dencity.

            You could of course never know if they were telling the truth, but if there were several people telling the same credible story and they had som post before they told about their aderans experience.

            350 participants someone must want to share their hairgain.
            Because basically it is a hair transplant, but not as we usually know it. You extract cells from the back of your cells and inject them again, so it's a transplant. People just get this wrong sometimes.

            To answer your last question: Because they are simply not allowed to. You would have to pay very high fees for pre-releasing trial information.

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            • Alf
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 91

              Originally posted by krewel
              Because basically it is a hair transplant, but not as we usually know it. You extract cells from the back of your cells and inject them again, so it's a transplant. People just get this wrong sometimes.

              To answer your last question: Because they are simply not allowed to. You would have to pay very high fees for pre-releasing trial information.
              Thanks.

              But internet is anonymity. Bald-Half Truth said that they had marked his head so that he could not take pictures, but only count the new hairs vissible to the naked eye. Can't see why not more people would do that. Would be nice to know if someone had gotten several injections in the same area and that they started getting "cured".

              So if anyone on the forum participates please give some information and just make sure not to get specific enough that they can catch you.

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              • Dazza
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 264

                Originally posted by krewel
                Because basically it is a hair transplant, but not as we usually know it. You extract cells from the back of your cells and inject them again, so it's a transplant.
                can you rephrase this

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                • krewel
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 187

                  Originally posted by Alf
                  Thanks.

                  But internet is anonymity. Bald-Half Truth said that they had marked his head so that he could not take pictures, but only count the new hairs vissible to the naked eye. Can't see why not more people would do that. Would be nice to know if someone had gotten several injections in the same area and that they started getting "cured".

                  So if anyone on the forum participates please give some information and just make sure not to get specific enough that they can catch you.
                  Well personally, I wouldn't take the risk. I am pretty sure the company would prosecute you under civil and criminal law. The internet never forgets!

                  Originally posted by Dazza
                  can you rephrase this
                  "Organ transplantation is the moving of an organ from one body to another or from a donor site on the patient's own body, for the purpose of replacing the recipient's damaged or absent organ." - Wikipedia

                  Aderans is doing the same, only that they are transplanting certain cells of the hair follicle and not a whole hair follicle as we usually know. That's why you can call this a hair transplant.

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    Originally posted by krewel
                    Well personally, I wouldn't take the risk. I am pretty sure the company would prosecute you under civil and criminal law. The internet never forgets!



                    "Organ transplantation is the moving of an organ from one body to another or from a donor site on the patient's own body, for the purpose of replacing the recipient's damaged or absent organ." - Wikipedia

                    Aderans is doing the same, only that they are transplanting certain cells of the hair follicle and not a whole hair follicle as we usually know. That's why you can call this a hair transplant.
                    But its still pretty much unlimited supply though, right?

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                    • krewel
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 187

                      Originally posted by hellouser
                      But its still pretty much unlimited supply though, right?
                      Yes. The cells taken from the biopsy will be multiplied in a growth medium. From a logical point of view, it's even possible to freeze them to be able to multiply them again. But I'm not sure about that.

                      Edit: Apparently yes.
                      "Cells were used either the same day or kept frozen at -80 °C for future use..." - http://aderansresearch.com/pdfs/02PatchAssay_04_05.pdf - Page 8

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        Originally posted by krewel
                        Yes. The cells taken from the biopsy will be multiplied in a growth medium. From a logical point of view, it's even possible to freeze them to be able to multiply them again. But I'm not sure about that.

                        Edit: Apparently yes.
                        "Cells were used either the same day or kept frozen at -80 °C for future use..." - http://aderansresearch.com/pdfs/02PatchAssay_04_05.pdf - Page 8
                        From the video I watched with their report i saw something in the area of 60% more hair after the injections. Thats pretty awesome, but could further injections be used to give even more hair? How would it even fair on the temples/hairline?

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                        • krewel
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 187

                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          From the video I watched with their report i saw something in the area of 60% more hair after the injections. Thats pretty awesome, but could further injections be used to give even more hair? How would it even fair on the temples/hairline?
                          More hair? According to their reports, probably yes, because also new hair follicles were created.

                          I can't tell you anything about hair lines because they haven't made any reports (at least I haven't seen any) about that. That's what they are/were about to find out in Phase II.

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                          • JRQ
                            Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 39

                            Originally posted by krewel
                            More hair? According to their reports, probably yes, because also new hair follicles were created.

                            I can't tell you anything about hair lines because they haven't made any reports (at least I haven't seen any) about that. That's what they are/were about to find out in Phase II.
                            But I know for a fact Phase II specifically focused on the crown only?

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                            • krewel
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 187

                              Originally posted by JRQ
                              But I know for a fact Phase II specifically focused on the crown only?
                              As far as I remember, not in all of their Phase II studies.

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                              • Alf
                                Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 91

                                Originally posted by JRQ
                                But I know for a fact Phase II specifically focused on the crown only?
                                Sure? didn't you just get information for the phase 2 which starts now and not the original one?

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