Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

[2020]

Do you have any others by different researchers? I tried doing a search and it seems this is the only research that appears to have found such results.

The research was also conducted a number of years back -

nope, that's the only one...
A bunch of people started taking it since the start of this thread so we'll see if it really works

[UK_]

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...ery=PN/7211274

Do you have any others by different researchers? I tried doing a search and it seems this is the only research that appears to have found such results.

The research was also conducted a number of years back -

[2020]

Can someone provide me a link to the actual journal article where this "study" is outlined in full?

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/7211274

[UK_]

Can someone provide me a link to the actual journal article where this "study" is outlined in full?

[NotBelievingIt]

Ive been applying a Vitamin E solution to my hair that contains Alpha-Toco something for over a year, its done nothing but improve the skin in the area, no impact on hair loss.

Unless a vitamin supplement explicitly is calling out the tocotrienol chains, its likely only going to contain Alpha Tocopheral, which is the most abundant and common source of "Vitamin E". Even some "Complete Vitamin E" you may see contain only the four tocopherols, so reading the ingredients is important.

[UK_]

Ive been applying a Vitamin E solution to my hair that contains Alpha-Toco something for over a year, its done nothing but improve the skin in the area, no impact on hair loss.

[gutted]

They may have gotten paranoid at the unknown. Many "bros" are like those in the hair loss community who jump from snake oil to snake oil - they don't see the results they want in a short time frame and then just give it up and move on to the next thing they read about in a magazine or internet forum.

i second that!

[yeahyeahyeah]

Of course, you're right - I was maybe a bit ecstatic when I wrote the comment, each body is different and reacts differently. Everyone should, of course, monitor their progress/situation and act accordingly.

Anyways, I was a bit disappointed that those body builders quit on tocotrienols at first sign of something happening ("tingling/crawling" sensation), they didn't go to a dermatologist or did they notice any sign of inflammation, red skin, or extra shedding - they just quit with the powder.
To me it's a definite sign something is happening - if you suspect bad - you should at least go to a doctor to check it out before making rash decisions.
Am I right?

I have not noticed any of this - "tingling/crawling" sensation.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I think with regard to bodybuilders specifically, we should remain skeptical. Some "bros" take a whole slew of stuff that god knows how they all react together.

They may have gotten paranoid at the unknown. Many "bros" are like those in the hair loss community who jump from snake oil to snake oil - they don't see the results they want in a short time frame and then just give it up and move on to the next thing they read about in a magazine or internet forum.

I will admit that if I was truly bat-shit paranoid crazy about my hair I might very well become one of those jumpers, hoping for a miracle that can "put an end to the misery"

There are too many good reviews for this product; and more importantly the reviews are consistent....immortal hair for example is a non bb forum raving about it.

Toco 8 is worth a shot, worse case scienario, it does not work. But enjoy the health benefits it brings in other areas. (Unlike propecia, i very much doubt your balls will drop off by taking it.)

3 days now. Nothing to report, aside from more energy after taking it.

[NotBelievingIt]

I think with regard to bodybuilders specifically, we should remain skeptical. Some "bros" take a whole slew of stuff that god knows how they all react together.

They may have gotten paranoid at the unknown. Many "bros" are like those in the hair loss community who jump from snake oil to snake oil - they don't see the results they want in a short time frame and then just give it up and move on to the next thing they read about in a magazine or internet forum.

I will admit that if I was truly bat-shit paranoid crazy about my hair I might very well become one of those jumpers, hoping for a miracle that can "put an end to the misery"

[bananana]

Tingling is either a sign of inflammation flare up, or strong hairs pushing out weak...earlier then a normal cycle might.

And comparing your gains vs someone elses on a similar product isn't fair. Maybe my body will respond superbly to the -trienols in Toco8, or it will shrug it off. Who knows.

Of course, you're right - I was maybe a bit ecstatic when I wrote the comment, each body is different and reacts differently. Everyone should, of course, monitor their progress/situation and act accordingly.

Anyways, I was a bit disappointed that those body builders quit on tocotrienols at first sign of something happening ("tingling/crawling" sensation), they didn't go to a dermatologist or did they notice any sign of inflammation, red skin, or extra shedding - they just quit with the powder.
To me it's a definite sign something is happening - if you suspect bad - you should at least go to a doctor to check it out before making rash decisions.
Am I right?

[NotBelievingIt]

I know, but I read on those BB forums that people who experienced tingling/crawling sensation also used toco-sorb, it didn't happen just with toco-8, and the problem for me with toco-8, it's much harder to find online someone who ships it to my mediterranean country, it's more expensive (even considering I'll be taking 2 toco sorb pills daily), and quite honestly I don't believe it's so much less effective than toco-8.

But we'll see, if I don't experience so much effects in 6 months as you guys on toco-8, I'll switch.

And to be clear on tingling sensation on the scalp - IT'S POSITIVE!
So guys, if you experience it while using toco - write about it here.

Tingling is either a sign of inflammation flare up, or strong hairs pushing out weak...earlier then a normal cycle might.

And comparing your gains vs someone elses on a similar product isn't fair. Maybe my body will respond superbly to the -trienols in Toco8, or it will shrug it off. Who knows.

[Jcm800]

I'm going thru a shed-now whether this is seasonal or Minox induced I don't know. It's been noticeable since taking this stuff tho. Oh bizarre as it may seem having only been on this a week now, my stubble after a shave is coming thru quicker than usual, anyway that's all I can say at the moment.

[bananana]

I know, but I read on those BB forums that people who experienced tingling/crawling sensation also used toco-sorb, it didn't happen just with toco-8, and the problem for me with toco-8, it's much harder to find online someone who ships it to my mediterranean country, it's more expensive (even considering I'll be taking 2 toco sorb pills daily), and quite honestly I don't believe it's so much less effective than toco-8.

But we'll see, if I don't experience so much effects in 6 months as you guys on toco-8, I'll switch.

And to be clear on tingling sensation on the scalp - IT'S POSITIVE!
So guys, if you experience it while using toco - write about it here.

[2020]

I ordered 6 bottles of toco sorb from swanson, and we'll see how it goes.

why not toco-8.... we've just established that only toco-8 is the "real" toco that was used in that hair growth study....