Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

[doesitwork]

Swansonvitamins.com sells Toco-Sorb for about half price.

On first sight that toco 8 seems to offer higher concentration in the mix.. but also its much more expensive, so better calculate if You plan to purchase one or another..

The best price for the real tocotrienols is to buy Jarrow Toco-Sorb from swansonvitamins.com.

It's about half price of the toco-8 best price.

[doesitwork]

There are three real Tocomin SupraBio products

but it doesn't have the same ingredients... only the toco-8 mix was patented. Others are just imitations

There are three real Tocomin SupraBio products.

1. Jarrow Formulas makes Toco-Sorb.
2. Toco-8 by Primordial Performance uses the same raw material - Tocomin SupraBio
3. And Life Extension Foundation makes Super Absorbable Tocotrienols, which also uses the Tocomin SupraBio licensed raw material.

[2020]

but it doesn't have the same ingredients... only the toco-8 mix was patented. Others are just imitations

[StressedToTheBald]

On first sight that toco 8 seems to offer higher concentration in the mix.. but also its much more expensive, so better calculate if You plan to purchase one or another..

[2020]

What's the difference?

not the same ingredients.

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/primordial-performance/toco-8-38-g.html

... there is a reason why toco-sorb is cheaper

[clandestine]

What's the difference?

[2020]

Also is their really much difference between toco-sorb and something like this that is cheaper: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/HRG00...LAID=956279346

thanks.

toco-sorb IS NOT THE SAME as toco-8....

[KeepHoping]

Also is their really much difference between toco-sorb and something like this that is cheaper: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/HRG00...LAID=956279346

thanks.

[clandestine]

Does anyone know if there is a source to get toco-8 for cheap, because you need at least a bottle a month if you take two scoops.

Seconded. Where'd mrmanns run off to?

[KeepHoping]

Does anyone know if there is a source to get toco-8 for cheap, because you need at least a bottle a month if you take two scoops.

[VictimOfDHT]

That is BIG news if true

That's not "big news". It's a fact that completely bald heads have hair on them but the hairs are so tiny that you can barely see them. Which means the follicles are there but for some god damn reason they're producing "invisible" hairs.

[StressedToTheBald]

Well, apparently there may be a way to thrwart genetics.

If DHT exerts its destructive behavior by enlisting super oxide, which damages follicles, Search "superoxide" in http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2956962/ - this is where tocotrienols might come in, as these potent antioxidants can neutralize superoxide.

Many thanks for that link doesitwork, I'll have a good look into this study.

I recall reading somewhere btw. that vitamin E can help? in sense of providing more? oxigen to hair folicles - question is if this works topical or orally ? I doubt any topical form would do the trick as oxigen is delivered via bloodstream. Also vitamin E comes in at least 4 types..

This reminded me of something that might be related. Amino acid called Arginine is said to play vital role in nitric oxide which may also be crucial for fighting hair loss. Via protein supplement I am currently taking 3,000mg+ of L-Arginine daily and plan to increase - but this is my first month so I can't say if it does any good just yet, along with other stuff that I also use daily.

I already found sth about nitric oxide from the link You provided - seems that nitric oxide is a good one !

"Nitric oxide (NO) initiates and maintains hair growth while superoxide inhibits hair growth. Use of arginine can enhance NO and promote angiogenesis for new hair growth.[15]"

[doesitwork]

DHT enlists superoxide to damage follicles

It is true, but its not really helping much. The problem always was and still is how to activate these hair folicles to grow and behave like the rest of the healthy hair. The difference between us who are going bald and those who aren't is in genes. We inherited hairs that react poorly to DHT while the other people with full set of hair - all their hairs are resistant to DHT, thats why they never go bald. Life ain't fair, some people are simply born with better or worse set of genes, changing the genes would be a scientific miracle & BIG news if You ask me.

Well, apparently there may be a way to thrwart genetics.

If DHT exerts its destructive behavior by enlisting super oxide, which damages follicles, Search "superoxide" in http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2956962/ - this is where tocotrienols might come in, as these potent antioxidants can neutralize superoxide.

[StressedToTheBald]

I believe that if cure is ever developed - it will work from inside, nothing topical. The problem itself is inside, what happens to our hair, outside, is just a consequence.

Folicles are not permanently damaged. They don't die !
Please read the following:

January 4, 2011
"Dr. George Cotsarelis, chairman of the dermatology department at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine...
"...The follicles that make hair don't go away completely, but they become miniaturized, to the point where the hair they normally make to replace hair when it naturally falls out becomes microscopic and therefore invisible," Cotsarelis said.
There are still just as many stem cells in the bald scalp that can make hair as there are in the normal haired scalp, and that was an important and surprising finding, Cotsarelis said.
...However, those hoping for a treatment anytime soon will have to wait. "Taking something from the lab to the clinic often takes decades, so there's no treatment around the corner," Cotsarelis cautioned. "It's really going to take quite a while to figure this out.""

[2020]

As the latest researches say, folicles don't die - even those in final balding stages, with shiny bald heads haven't exactly lost their hairs in scientific sense of the word. Roots and hair folicles are still there but have minatured to an extreme degree, due to DHT, that they are not visible.

yes but those follicles shrunk due to DAMAGE. PERMANENT DAMAGE. No natural treatment will reverse it...