Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by NotBelievingIt
    AFAIK the only difference between the two is the dosage. It uses the same underlying source (Carotech).

    60 servings of Toco 8 has a roughly double the -pherol and -trienol counts that Toco Sorb does at 60 servings as well.

    But Toco Sorb costs half as much, so if you match the dose, the cost is basically the same.

    But like any other non-medicine there have been no studies that indicate whether Toco Sorb has the same effect as Toco 8 at their standard dosing. Plus the additional benefit of the -trienols apparently have only been known now for 2-3 years and only gained attention for benefits of hair growth promotion within maybe the last 1-2 years.
    Toco-8 comes in a powder so it absorbs much MUCH better than those plastic pills from toco-sorb.......

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  • NotBelievingIt
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    Originally posted by Zed
    i'm in uk and thinking of ordering toco 8 or toco sorb. which one is known to be more effective and can you buy at any shops in uk? like body building shops even?
    AFAIK the only difference between the two is the dosage. It uses the same underlying source (Carotech).

    60 servings of Toco 8 has a roughly double the -pherol and -trienol counts that Toco Sorb does at 60 servings as well.

    But Toco Sorb costs half as much, so if you match the dose, the cost is basically the same.

    But like any other non-medicine there have been no studies that indicate whether Toco Sorb has the same effect as Toco 8 at their standard dosing. Plus the additional benefit of the -trienols apparently have only been known now for 2-3 years and only gained attention for benefits of hair growth promotion within maybe the last 1-2 years.

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  • Zed
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    i'm in uk and thinking of ordering toco 8 or toco sorb. which one is known to be more effective and can you buy at any shops in uk? like body building shops even?

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  • Jcm800
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    Originally posted by Maradona
    Let us know broseph.
    Just popped two today and sprouted an affro

    Sure I'll keep updates coming dude.

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  • Maradona
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    Originally posted by Jcm800
    My caps arrived just now. Talk about fast delivery!

    Anyway I'll start popping them and see if anything occurs.
    Let us know broseph.

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  • Jcm800
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    My caps arrived just now. Talk about fast delivery!

    Anyway I'll start popping them and see if anything occurs.

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    Originally posted by NotBelievingIt
    Shampoos that improve volume only have Vitamin E tocopherols in them since they are far more easier to find in nature, so we might start seeing hair products with the -treinols in them one of these days.
    I think I might have mixed E vitamins in my MSM balm.

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  • NotBelievingIt
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    Vitamin E helps promote circulation in the scalp and Vitamin E in general is good for healthy growth of hair.

    So by virtue of improving the health of existing hair, it will slow the process down since the DHT strangulation that goes on will take longer.

    It might even have the potential to strengthen resistance against DHT and therefore "bring back to life" (at least somewhat) hairs that have miniturized greatly. Likely they would never return to their full size, but even the smaller hairs becoming fuller and thicker would help diminish the appearance of loss.

    Since there has been no controlled study its tough to say, plus it appears these full complex Vitamin E supplements with high tocotreinol uptake have only been around a few years now and more popular in the body building world. It will take time to shift out of that since that world is full of supplement this, supplement that.

    Shampoos that improve volume only have Vitamin E tocopherols in them since they are far more easier to find in nature, so we might start seeing hair products with the -treinols in them one of these days.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by NotBelievingIt
    Can't be what?

    He's simply saying as part of the whole context that increased androgen receptor uptake with increased testosterone and thus DHT will accelerate hair loss, thats all - and why he recommends tocotreinol supplementation.
    right, but how could it possibly slow down balding??
    We know that it doesn't block DHT (probably increases it), so how would it work for your hair? Does it make your follicles more resistant to DHT or what?

    This goes against everything we know...

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  • NotBelievingIt
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    Can't be what?

    He's simply saying as part of the whole context that increased androgen receptor uptake with increased testosterone and thus DHT will accelerate hair loss, thats all - and why he recommends tocotreinol supplementation.

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  • 2020
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    ...If you are prone to baldness, tocotrienols are a must. Tocotreienols are a special form of Vitamin E that help with hair growth and slowing down hair loss. Men that are prone to baldness will accelerate hair loss with ramped up DHT levels. If you are not prone to baldness then it will not likely be an issue....
    can't be..

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  • bananana
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    Conpecia - please dont start again.

    Guys, I've found it somewhat cheaper at swanson:
    http://www.swansonvitamins.com/mobil...ail/JR097.html (this is a mobile link - I'm on iphone)
    Shipping to my part of the world is ~$28,
    I'm thinking about ordering 6 packs right away, so I'm good for at least 6 monts.

    Other sources you mentioned (except vitacost) are way too expensive.
    ~$50 for 1 month supply + shipping is off my chart.

    I really hope cheaper version works as good as the other one does.

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  • Conpecia
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    Originally posted by 2020
    VitaCost is having a sale:



    $13.96 for 60 pills (46% off).

    ^ If you take 2 of those a day then it may amount to the same amount that toco-8 has...
    Welly welly well, my droogs. Look who decided to use his malenky gulliver for once and peet tocos like the rest of his brothers...

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  • 2020
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    VitaCost is having a sale:



    $13.96 for 60 pills (46% off).

    ^ If you take 2 of those a day then it may amount to the same amount that toco-8 has...

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  • Jcm800
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    Tks for the heads up Against - i've just ordered some from here http://www.victoriahealth.com/produc...ienols/7917/0/

    Fck it - might be gnats piss in a capsule but i'll give it a try.

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