Is HASCI for real?

[NeedHairASAP]

I'm seeing about seven brown spots with hairs present in them, in the top right hand part of the shaved area.

Is that the proof that hairs are growing in the donor area?

yes, and there are more than seven

Is that the proof that a partial follicular unit has been extracted?

uhh? well.. if there are "brown spots", that many could easily assume are the scars, along with "hairs present", then it's probably good to assume a partial follicular unit has been extracted... or has regrown. Call me crazy.

I am certain this will not be convincing Spencer. It certainly isn't convincing me.

hahahaha... no way, anything but that!

I've met Gho, and I don't trust him.

ok.........?

Cooley was more believable with autocloning, and he was full of it, as I know first hand.

More convincing? how? Gho has

- multiple peer-reviewed journals leading up to the current marketed technique

-a few people happy with the procedure, between the dutch and english forums

-20 videos on youtube of people getting the procedure

- and multiple procedures done Famous people such as a soccer player, a german idol contestant, and a Tour De France winner.


What exactly did Cooley put out? a press release?


Now, Gho doing 0.6mm FUEs that work? yes, lol That is an achievement - but where is the proof of even that? lol, again, see the 4 or 5 peer reviewed articles sstarting in 1998 We need a video of the 0.6mm punch going in, and then a follow up showing robust growth in the recipient site. this is a good idea. Maybe GC can tell Gho that a test on one single FU would be best

Get Gho to do a live surgery on the bald truth - and if he can convince Spencer, then bring it on.

uhh.. what is with the Spencer thing?

Gho needs the business, so what's stopping him?

He needs exposure, and than expansion, currently he doesnt need business

Also, he wants to sell the technique and tools to other surgeons, so he needs to show it working.

with? peer reviewed articles?

Guys - please, wise up, and hold these charlatans to account.

Whether Gho is paying Spencer's fee or not, Spencer should demonstrate he is willing to acknowledge things that work, if Gho is prepared to demonstrate it.

Spencer should press harder. His last interview was good, but apparently not good enough for many people. Take it up with him, instead of bashing Gho with less evidence against him than we currently have for him

Spencer and Gho need to get it on - a put up or shut up ultimatum, from us, via Spencer, to the man making the claims.

That is all.

Conclusion: Spencer should push for a single follicular unit experiment.

[Reece]

CV and REESE may want to suggest what would give them more peace of mind than the peer reviewed article allows for-- I mean this politely[/QUOTE]

Thank you for being reasonable as skepticism is human nature when something with this potential is available. I'm not gonna lie, demonstrating donor regeneration seems to be quite difficult and subjective. I've heard different ranges of regeneration from different surgeons so quite frankly a consistent assessment from peers, macro photo/tattoo, and quantity of results in general would continue to attract me to the technique.

I may not have as much time vested in this research as some users but, I think from the information I've gathered we can agree on the benefits

1. Quick recovery
2. No scarring
3. Variable regeneration=increased donor supply

Again I don't mean to offend, these are just my consumer opinions. I assure you I am not a naysayer, just a guy who doesn't have thousands of dollars or multiple scalps to risk on the newest procedure only offered by one man. I also agree that if this were offered in the us by other trusted surgeons that it would mitigate the skepticism. Now the reasons for the ht surgeons not picking up the technique seem unknown but, the fact that they are holds some weight. I mean we have some fairly progressive surgeons domestically so naturally that doesn't help Ghos argument.

To be honest I think we are on the brink, whether its a variation of Ghos technique or one of the stem cell solutions. I believe in replicel even more now because of the idea that Gho has seen some regeneration leaving the dermal sheath but....i am still reluctant to spend the $ to fly out to Gho multiple times all while dealing with language barriers and tens of thousands of dollars. Just.my thoughts.

I appreciate the educated discussions and opinions. I know we are all in it for the same reasons.

[gc83uk]

I'm seeing about seven brown spots with hairs present in them, in the top right hand part of the shaved area.

Is that the proof that hairs are growing in the donor area?

Is that the proof that a partial follicular unit has been extracted?

I am certain this will not be convincing Spencer. It certainly isn't convincing me.

I've met Gho, and I don't trust him.

Cooley was more believable with autocloning, and he was full of it, as I know first hand.

Now, Gho doing 0.6mm FUEs that work? That is an achievement - but where is the proof of even that? We need a video of the 0.6mm punch going in, and then a follow up showing robust growth in the recipient site.

Get Gho to do a live surgery on the bald truth - and if he can convince Spencer, then bring it on.

Gho needs the business, so what's stopping him?

Also, he wants to sell the technique and tools to other surgeons, so he needs to show it working.

Guys - please, wise up, and hold these charlatans to account.

Whether Gho is paying Spencer's fee or not, Spencer should demonstrate he is willing to acknowledge things that work, if Gho is prepared to demonstrate it.

Spencer and Gho need to get it on - a put up or shut up ultimatum, from us, via Spencer, to the man making the claims.

That is all.

To be frank I don't think Gho 'needs' the business, he is already selling his technique in the far east and getting booked into one of the European clinics is months ahead.

I can't show you anything else, if you can't be convinced then hey ho.

[maxhair]

So did you miss this close up picture http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/...onor%20010.jpg

What do you mean by insisting on better photos? Gho didn't take them. I've taken all of my own photos.

I'm seeing about seven brown spots with hairs present in them, in the top right hand part of the shaved area.

Is that the proof that hairs are growing in the donor area?

Is that the proof that a partial follicular unit has been extracted?

I am certain this will not be convincing Spencer. It certainly isn't convincing me.

I've met Gho, and I don't trust him.

Cooley was more believable with autocloning, and he was full of it, as I know first hand.

Now, Gho doing 0.6mm FUEs that work? That is an achievement - but where is the proof of even that? We need a video of the 0.6mm punch going in, and then a follow up showing robust growth in the recipient site.

Get Gho to do a live surgery on the bald truth - and if he can convince Spencer, then bring it on.

Gho needs the business, so what's stopping him?

Also, he wants to sell the technique and tools to other surgeons, so he needs to show it working.

Guys - please, wise up, and hold these charlatans to account.

Whether Gho is paying Spencer's fee or not, Spencer should demonstrate he is willing to acknowledge things that work, if Gho is prepared to demonstrate it.

Spencer and Gho need to get it on - a put up or shut up ultimatum, from us, via Spencer, to the man making the claims.

That is all.

[NeedHairASAP]

2 weeks mate

you should suggest to Gho, in a friendly way, that maybe he can put up more proof? He'll probably respond saying he showed macro photography of regrowth in tattooed areas, but if there is anything he could do, he should do it.


If anybody has any idea of a better way to prove regrowth than is shown in the peer reviewed article, please post your suggestions here..


CV and REESE may want to suggest what would give them more peace of mind than the peer reviewed article allows for-- I mean this politely

[damielmillo]

Ok, great...if you can...ask him if they are able to do 1700 or more grafts in one procedure if we have a good donor area...
Thanks!!!

[gc83uk]

2 weeks mate

[damielmillo]

gc83uk, when are you going to see Gho?

[gc83uk]

Hey GC, are you taking any medication? Fin or Dut?

No medication as such, only minox, I haven't really been using it if i'm honest, might remember once a week to spray some on.

Hi neversaynever, I had HSI, which is basically the same as HST except with hsi, the hair is 'injected' into the scalp at the same time as the hole in the scalp is made. I think with hst, the hole is created first and then the hair is inserted later. That's the simplest form of explanation, there is a load more detail at hasci.com

[NeedHairASAP]

What the **** haha????? Were we really having an argument? I was asking you a serious question. You want to argue about something that's been talked about a million times?

I clearly said that if I had the money, I would probably do it for the minimal scars but since I was not 100% sure about the regeneration, you get emotional and offended? Give me a ****ing break! The only one acting like a bitch is you! I was asking you a serious question you ****ing idiot!

What the **** do you want me to argue that hasnt been said already? You might as well challenge every one in the forum or maybe you can call Spencer, since he isn't completely sure either. He might have a new argument ha.

We see red dots with hairs coming out of them. These photos are from a third party (forum user) and in an article in a peer reviewed journal. Therefore, at this point, Gho is either splitting follicular units in half with 90%+ precision, or he is regenerating hairs the way he claims he is-- there is NO in between.


Its pretty well known that the cells Gho targets and uses will theoretically work the way he says. They are why a plucked hair regrows and why a full-on FUE graft does not. Thats proven science.

So after considering all of this, I see red holes with hairs coming out of them in a peer reviewed paper and also in photos posted on a forum, which leads me to be practically 100% positive that Gho is not splitting hairs and that he is regenerating them in the donor-- using science that can be demonstrated in your own home by plucking a hair out of your head and watching it regrow-- aka the cells are on the bottom and sides of the follicle and they will regenerate when left there.




I just can't stand people claiming there is no evidence-- when there is more evidence than histogen's three little tiny pictures or follicas pixar movies

[NeedHairASAP]

gc83uk.....

Finding all the posts a bit confusing. Did you have the injection method or standard transplant method with Gho??

If its injection, im confused as to why there isnt a bigger fuss being made about it. Hes injecting stem cells extracted from the donor area, and new hairs are growing in the recepient.

If this is true...then why cant gho just culture these cells (over 3 months like replicell) and implant......

Really wish they would answer emails quicker. Im so ready to book a procedure!

apparently culturing cells is not easy and I dont believe it has been accomplished by anybody yet (even replicel).... cells can turn cancerous etc.

I'm sure if Gho could culture them he would, and if Gho could, then replicel wouldn't be dumping so much money into trying to do it...



the fact that the stem cells are growing after being injected isn't really that exciting... any hair transplant works off this same principle.. Go just injects the necessary part that was extracted, while most surgeons insert the neccessary part and some other tissue and the extracted follicle

[neversaynever]

gc83uk.....

Finding all the posts a bit confusing. Did you have the injection method or standard transplant method with Gho??

If its injection, im confused as to why there isnt a bigger fuss being made about it. Hes injecting stem cells extracted from the donor area, and new hairs are growing in the recepient.

If this is true...then why cant gho just culture these cells (over 3 months like replicell) and implant......

Even if they can just double the amount of cells, it would amazing!

Really wish they would answer emails quicker. Im so ready to book a procedure!

[CVAZBAR]

Yes its the circled area.

Good luck mate, you won't regret it.

Hey GC, are you taking any medication? Fin or Dut?

[CVAZBAR]

is that really your only response you have, bro?

I guess I won that argument?

and to answer you're lame response in question form-- I have a consultation booked this June, bitch

I guess CVbazer is trying to make this argument:
"some people who think Gho's procedure works dont have money or time to get the procedure immediately, therefore the procedure doesn't work"

nice argument CV

@GC - dont even bother bickering with these people GC. Just keep posting photos. For every 1 loser who doesn't appreciate it, there are 12 that do.

What the **** haha????? Were we really having an argument? I was asking you a serious question. You want to argue about something that's been talked about a million times?

I clearly said that if I had the money, I would probably do it for the minimal scars but since I was not 100% sure about the regeneration, you get emotional and offended? Give me a ****ing break! The only one acting like a bitch is you! I was asking you a serious question you ****ing idiot!

What the **** do you want me to argue that hasnt been said already? You might as well challenge every one in the forum or maybe you can call Spencer, since he isn't completely sure either. He might have a new argument ha.

[RichardDawkins]

Oh before i forget about it.

The question if hasci is legit...

Ask Dr Cole who got donor regrowth also, ask him if Gho is legit.

Its funny that people also ignore Cole when the attack Gho, effin Hippocrites