Is HASCI for real?

[RichardDawkins]

Oh god do i have to repeat myself AGAIN why not?

DO i really have to?

No this time i wont do it, its ridicolous

[CVAZBAR]

come on man, we've seen the pictures of regeneration in Gho's PEER REVIEWED ARTICLE (that still has not be revoked- they do this)

We have also UNDOUBTABLY seen regrowth in GC's photos


so how can you say you're not convinced? Will you not be convinced until the FDA publishes a study?

I know CVAZBAR that you are a big histogen/follica guy, but come on bro... Gho has put more up then histogens shitty photos and follicas pixar movies... get real
personally, I want just something like this here

I'd take more, but if I can pull that off, I'll be happy enough

Relax homie. I'm not dissing Gho at all. Im just not there 100% and I bet you aren't either. You won't admit it but I know you would like more concrete and consistent proof. I have a great idea. Why don't you and Dawkins go get the procedure done (since you claim to be 100% convinced), come back, give us the evidence and make this a thing of the past. Maybe even Spencer would be all in. I rather hear it and see it from you and Dawkins since I know you guys have more knowledge in this and youve been here for a while.

For the record, I'm big on Follica, Histogen , Replicel, Aderans, Gho and every other mother****ing potential cure. I don't have favorites. I want them all to work! The more, the better. Quite frankly, I stand the same for all since none
have been proven to work. My hope is to see them all succeed and to get to market ASAP! Ya Dig?

[damielmillo]

Jeje Yes !! Marleen is the only that speak english in HASCI...i also have done a lot of questions and her english is not as good...(mine also jeje)
I think that gc83uk you can take advantage of your meeting face to face and ask Marleen and Gho all the questions that we have....
When will you see Gho? Pls if you can, ask him if he can extract 1800 or 2000 grafts in one procedure....If yes, we can see a really difference.
Thanks and all will be OK !!

[gc83uk]

Dawkins, yeah I do wish I'd had more, but I think it was wise to try a small number to start with.

I'm contemplating getting the maximum amount done on the next procedure.

And yes it was a type of alopecia, which ended up with me scratching my own hair out as a young child, the scalp was red and scaly and each flake of skin that fell had x many hairs attached, that lasted for a couple of years unfortunately.

Anyway thanks for all the encouraging comments needhairasap, dawkins, damiel and jeffro.

[gc83uk]

Jeffro,

I'd hazard a guess that the person emailing you, most probably Marleen (Gho Secetary), I'd say her English isn't that perfect, so she probably thought that you referenced the front, when you actually said the middle area.

I wouldn't read into that at all. I've actually sent emails back to Marleen a few times, if I ask anything too complicated I don't get a response lol. I given up with asking too many questions, I'll save them for when I next speak to Gho in person in a couple of weeks.

[jeffro5422]

Daniel, thanks man. That is what I was hoping for. But my questions is, why does Gho want to work on the front and seem hesitant to work in the mid-scalp and crown? If he is regenerating donor (which I'm not saying that he isn't) then my age shouldn't be an issue. Its confusing to me.

NeedHair, yeah I'd be happy if I could get a consistent density like that pic of Daniel Craig. Plus who wouldn't want to look like James Bond lol.

[NeedHairASAP]

If I had a shit load of money, I would probably go with Gho. Not necessarily because I'm convinced on the donor regeneration but because of the limited scarring. That way, if it failed, I would probably still be able to buzz it off.

come on man, we've seen the pictures of regeneration in Gho's PEER REVIEWED ARTICLE (that still has not be revoked- they do this)

We have also UNDOUBTABLY seen regrowth in GC's photos


so how can you say you're not convinced? Will you not be convinced until the FDA publishes a study?


I know CVAZBAR that you are a big histogen/follica guy, but come on bro... Gho has put more up then histogens shitty photos and follicas pixar movies... get real







personally, I want just something like this here

I'd take more, but if I can pull that off, I'll be happy enough

[damielmillo]

Hi jeffro5422, i think that with 1800 in your midscalp you will be ok, and then 9 month later you can do another procedure of 1800 grafts and have a good density

[CVAZBAR]

If I had a shit load of money, I would probably go with Gho. Not necessarily because I'm convinced on the donor regeneration but because of the limited scarring. That way, if it failed, I would probably still be able to buzz it off.

[jeffro5422]

Here are a couple of pics to illustrate my point. As you can see, it looks ok from the front. Sure, it would be great if it was thicker there too, but I would rather bring my midscalp and crown up to a level consistent with the front before I worry about going for more density there.

[jeffro5422]

gc83uk thanks for the link. That was very interesting to read from the beginning of your procedure. It looks like thing's are going good for you!


After about 3 months, Gho's clinic finally responded to my email and consultation request. However, I'm a little confused about their response.

Let me review my situation quickly for everyone. I'm 29 and had a 1300 FUE in the front third of my scalp about 4 years ago. I've continued to thin behind my transplant (as I expected) and was hoping that Gho would be willing to work on my midscalp and crown due to his ability to regenerate donor hair. Other docs are reluctant to do this because of my age. I'm not slick bald, but I'm heading that way and it seemed like his procedure would be perfect to attack my hair loss little by little over time. I expressed those ideas in my email to his clinic and here is their response. I'll quote sections from their email:

"Our goal of a hair transplantation is not to achieve a “dense as possible” result, but a “natural as possible” result. We therefore don’t look only at the present state, but also at the consequences in the future.

Due to the re-growth of hair in the donor area of at least 70 to 80% and the fact that there are no residual scars, the donor area (following recovery) can be used again.

The number of grafts we can and/or will obtain depends on the quality of the skin and follicles, the size of the donor- as well as the recipient area and also your wishes.

In your case, we are able to place a lot of grafts in the recipient area. We can extract 1200-1400 grafts. With these grafts, we could do the frontal part, and therefore also your appearance."


Almost all of that makes sense. Natural result as opposed to densest result: cool. Donor regrowth of 70-80%: cool. Number of grafts depends on the person: cool. 1200-1400 for me: cool. But then they say that they will work on the front, when I specifically asked to work just behind the front and my previous transplant. That's what I don't understand. I sent them another email asking if I address the front with an initial procedure, could I then return once the donor has regenerated and work in the midscalp and crown. I haven't heard back yet.

What do you guys think about this?

[RichardDawkins]

Man to bad, i was ready to see some bash and insult action here and what did i get instead?

Honest and very rational statements come on guys dont be so rational, hair multiplication is still ahem 30 years away ^^

And yes Neddhairasap, scarring alopecia is consideres severe. So actualy its not a joke that HSI was used on this scalp, it simply prooves what a lot of people prayed all the time

"This is hair multiplication available today"

And sorry to crush in again, do you really think that any surgeon would offer HST or HSI? The only docs right now who at least investigate in that direction, are Cole, Cooley, Hitzig and thats it.

Armani on the other hand for example is still planting 5000 Grafts on 5 square cm bald skin on a NW 1,000001 patient, put make up on his face and let him star in a commercial video which resembles those videos from the Umbrella Corporation ( a fictional organisation in the Resident Evil / Biohazard universe)

[NeedHairASAP]

I'd say the surgery was very successful. now,

we've seen regrowth from a third party's photos

we've seen the recipient grow out- and even on GC's scarred skin (right GC? if I remember correctly, you itched your hair out, due to the rare type of alopecia you have, and although it doesnt look scarred, we can assume that if the treatment goes smoothly in your case, it could go smoothly in less "scarred" patients...)



I'd say there is only one thing left to do...


get other doctors to offer it so we can get the price down.

In the next 3 years, I'd love to get the cost of nw7-nw2 down to about $20-50k... as of now it looks like the cost could be $50-70k depending on your luck. Hasci says people only need 3 procedures, but I know I'd need more like seven or eight 1,800 graft sessions over my lifetime to keep/gain what I'd like to keep/gain

[RichardDawkins]

For 14 weeks prett solid (i wont use euohemistic words because people will jump all over me for this) for only 700 sparsely planted grafts, they look very natural, so with more grafts you will bcome avry natural density, end of story, begin to save your money instead.

Also i like tis little curly hair where you can see that the under root looks very strong again, another proof *sigh* for the millionth time

Also i like some of those longer hairs whih have a very weak upper part, but a stronger under part.

In other words your case is a boring case of donor regeneration and of Ghs claims :-)

Sorry for saying boring but hey your case is just what it is, a definitely proof of concept ^^

Btw let me guess, you are a litle bit annoyed right now beause you didnt opt for more grafts right :-)

[gc83uk]

Hi Dawkins,

What do you think of the latest pic? I have to say I'm quite happy already seeing as that it was complete bald before in this area and its only been about 14 weeks.

Jeffo, have a read of this and have a look at the pics, there are about 3 of the donor area which i took a few days apart, it was the best I could do at the time.

Make sure you comment back on it!