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  • optimisticyouth
    Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 45

    Originally posted by hellouser
    Tell that to the finasteride dickriders.

    That shit has no place for anyone who's an NW4 or higher. Good luck reversing anything after that. And since NW4+ looks already worse than NW3 (and that looks bad too) what the fvck is the point in clinging on to an NW4 stage head of hair?
    You're probably right, if you're already too far gone, then there's really no point in using fin. Having said that, however, fin CAN help many people who catch their hair loss early on. I'm not sure where your hatred towards fin and its users comes from, but you act like it causes side effects in nearly everyone. That doesn't seem to be reality though.

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    • hellouser
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 4419

      Originally posted by optimisticyouth
      You're probably right, if you're already too far gone, then there's really no point in using fin. Having said that, however, fin CAN help many people who catch their hair loss early on. I'm not sure where your hatred towards fin and its users comes from, but you act like it causes side effects in nearly everyone. That doesn't seem to be reality though.
      The hatred is toward every current option and every complacent hair loss sufferer. Its inexcusable for propecia to be the best solution to hair loss after 20 years in 2013... and we're STILL years away from a cure.

      We've failed MISERABLY as a hair loss community to demand and push forward for superior alternatives. I cannot believe that in 2013 such a relatively SHIT treatment is still the #1 option.

      And once a cure does come to the market, everyone will fully agree that its shit... theres NO EXCUSE for us not have a proper solution by now.

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      • deuce
        Senior Member
        • May 2013
        • 209

        Wasn/t one of yall looking for this?

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        • thechamp
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1763

          Originally posted by hellouser
          The hatred is toward every current option and every complacent hair loss sufferer. Its inexcusable for propecia to be the best solution to hair loss after 20 years in 2013... and we're STILL years away from a cure.

          We've failed MISERABLY as a hair loss community to demand and push forward for superior alternatives. I cannot believe that in 2013 such a relatively SHIT treatment is still the #1 option.

          And once a cure does come to the market, everyone will fully agree that its shit... theres NO EXCUSE for us not have a proper solution by now.
          Your right 2013 we all work hard have money still no cure i have come to the point I'm just going to shave my head and embrace it!

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          • UK_
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 2691

            Originally posted by thechamp
            Your right 2013 we all work hard have money still no cure i have come to the point I'm just going to shave my head and embrace it!
            Wait!!! Dont go until you've seen this: (it might be something)

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            • clandestine
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2002

              Originally posted by hellouser
              The hatred is toward every current option and every complacent hair loss sufferer. Its inexcusable for propecia to be the best solution to hair loss after 20 years in 2013... and we're STILL years away from a cure.

              We've failed MISERABLY as a hair loss community to demand and push forward for superior alternatives. I cannot believe that in 2013 such a relatively SHIT treatment is still the #1 option.

              And once a cure does come to the market, everyone will fully agree that its shit... theres NO EXCUSE for us not have a proper solution by now.
              Amen.

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              • StayThick
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 624

                Originally posted by hellouser
                The hatred is toward every current option and every complacent hair loss sufferer. Its inexcusable for propecia to be the best solution to hair loss after 20 years in 2013... and we're STILL years away from a cure.

                We've failed MISERABLY as a hair loss community to demand and push forward for superior alternatives. I cannot believe that in 2013 such a relatively SHIT treatment is still the #1 option.

                And once a cure does come to the market, everyone will fully agree that its shit... theres NO EXCUSE for us not have a proper solution by now.
                Wait!!! There's always rolling a bunch of needles on your head. The cure is right here in front of us... What are you talking about Hellouser?!

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                • DesperateOne
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 289

                  Originally posted by StayThick
                  Wait!!! There's always rolling a bunch of needles on your head. The cure is right here in front of us... What are you talking about Hellouser?!
                  Well I am rolling that on my head but its painful as hell. I still don't think that will be the true cure. I will be applying some stuff while I roll.

                  It is true that we should have a freaking cure by now, I am so tied of this freaking situation. Why do all those geniuses go to study physics? We needed a few of them to study hair loss, we would of had this crap beat. Why did we have mediocre scientist who are nothing but sheeple among the few researchers.

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    Originally posted by StayThick
                    Wait!!! There's always rolling a bunch of needles on your head. The cure is right here in front of us... What are you talking about Hellouser?!
                    The wounding theory is backed by actual science. If you want to knock it, you may as well completely dismiss Follica.

                    If your stance is to ignore trial and error, then I don't give a shit about your comments.

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                    • simba
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 103

                      Now that you have all stop whining we can get back to whats important.

                      I've got another question about CB, in the trials they said they're using a 5% solution, but they don't state the absolute amount of CB (or solution) that they're using, will it be 5% with 1ml solution or 5ml/10ml etc?

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        Originally posted by simba
                        Now that you have all stop whining we can get back to whats important.

                        I've got another question about CB, in the trials they said they're using a 5% solution, but they don't state the absolute amount of CB (or solution) that they're using, will it be 5% with 1ml solution or 5ml/10ml etc?
                        Thats way to specific of a question. We don't even know the vehicle, theres no way we'd know the amount used in it.

                        Just think of it as minox, 1ml is typically not enough to cover the entire scalp, so if you want complete coverage, it'll probably 2ml or more.

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                        • yan
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 156

                          Originally posted by simba
                          Now that you have all stop whining we can get back to whats important.

                          I've got another question about CB, in the trials they said they're using a 5% solution, but they don't state the absolute amount of CB (or solution) that they're using, will it be 5% with 1ml solution or 5ml/10ml etc?
                          Dude this makes no sense. % is the strenght.

                          1% = 10mg/1ml or 20mg/2ml or 100mg/10ml
                          5% = 50mg/1ml or 100mg/2ml or 500mg/10ml

                          If you apply 1ml 1% cb to cover your hairline, you applied 10mg CB. If you apply 2ml 1% cb to cover your whole head, you applied 20mg CB.

                          So 200 dollar for 1g CB from kane + lets assume you use 2ml 5% daily = 10 days ??? Wtf. This would be ridicilous expensive!! Its like 10x as expensive as RU.

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            Originally posted by yan
                            Dude this makes no sense. % is the strenght.

                            1% = 10mg/1ml or 20mg/2ml or 100mg/10ml

                            If you apply 1ml to cover your hairline, you applied 10mg CB. If you apply 2ml to cover your whole head, you applied 20mg CB.
                            This.

                            Although I've got a gut feeling that an ethanol/pg vehicle may work just as well *if* youre dermarolling as well. Penetration should be significantly easier, I've seen sources say that molecules with a weight of up to 10,000 dalton can pass through skin when dermarolled.

                            Which is interesting because this is what would allow BNP-32 to pass through skin EASILY as its molecular weight is 3,464 dalton. Would love to see results with that.

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                            • yan
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 156

                              Cortexolone 17alpha propionate 1g Form III from Kane: 200 dollar

                              How long will it last?

                              1ml 1% daily = 100 days = 2 dollar / day
                              2ml 1% daily = 50 days = 4 dollar / day

                              1ml 5% daily = 20 days = 10 dollar / day
                              2ml 5% daily = 10 days = 20 dollar / day

                              CB is going to test 5% anhydrous solution. So lets assume you have to cover your whole scalp. That costs you 20 dollar / day. Wow, so damn expensive!

                              And this is only the price for CB, the price for the vehicle is not included... But I guess 1% could give you also good results if applied with the right vehicle.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                Originally posted by yan
                                Cortexolone 17alpha propionate 1g Form III from Kane: 200 dollar

                                How long will it last?

                                1ml 1% daily = 100 days = 2 dollar / day
                                2ml 1% daily = 50 days = 4 dollar / day

                                1ml 5% daily = 20 days = 10 dollar / day
                                2ml 5% daily = 10 days = 20 dollar / day

                                CB is going to test 5% anhydrous solution. So lets assume you have to cover your whole scalp. That costs you 20 dollar / day. Wow, so damn expensive!

                                And this is only the price for CB, the price for the vehicle is not included... But I guess 1% could give you also good results if applied with the right vehicle.
                                Group buys would be necessary to bring the price down.

                                But I think the 5% number is just a safety measure much like finasteride; its not necessary to use it at 5mg, 1mg shows the same efficacy.

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