CB-03-01 - new antiandrogenic

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  • yan
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 156

    Originally posted by deuce
    I just do not understand all the hype with this cb. No proven results were ever shown in pics. Fellas I hope it does work, but it gets me upset that there is no VISIBLE proof. How in the world would we figure out this vehicle? I think the best hope out there is what joe from staten island said on the bald truth about the newly rejuvinated bimatropost in phase 2 accelerated trials by allergen.
    Well the mechanism of blocking DHT and the results on the hair is well known. The only problem, as you said, is the vehicle. But one thing is 100% sure, if it reaches the hair follicle and block dht + testeron, it will stop your hair loss and give you some regrowth.

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    • chimera
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 171

      Originally posted by deuce
      I just do not understand all the hype with this cb. No proven results were ever shown in pics. Fellas I hope it does work, but it gets me upset that there is no VISIBLE proof. How in the world would we figure out this vehicle? I think the best hope out there is what joe from staten island said on the bald truth about the newly rejuvinated bimatropost in phase 2 accelerated trials by allergen.
      Bimatoprost has never done anything more than the prehistoric minox can do. Perhaps this new version can do a little more, but how much?, a hundred percent better, two hundred percent better?, that would still be low.

      But, if we find the right vehicle for CB, it will practically be the cure for low Norwoods.

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      • Hairismylife
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 383

        I'm ready to buy CB from Kane and use KB as vehicle.
        Any opinion?

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          Originally posted by Hairismylife
          I'm ready to buy CB from Kane and use KB as vehicle.
          Any opinion?
          If your using something like KB, you better be dermarolling. CB doesn't penetrate all that well in ethanol. I doubt KB will be any better.

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          • petewete
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 19

            What "vehicle" is this company running the trials using? Can we not just use the same approach? Or is it too expensive or complicated?

            Maybe talking to a dermatologist or a chemist would give us a good idea on how to make this stuff penetrate into the scalp?

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              Originally posted by petewete
              What "vehicle" is this company running the trials using? Can we not just use the same approach? Or is it too expensive or complicated?

              Maybe talking to a dermatologist or a chemist would give us a good idea on how to make this stuff penetrate into the scalp?
              They used iontophoresis in the study but also *may* have used oleyl and propylene glycol as well. However, Cosmo has stated it will use an anhydrous (dry) vehicle.

              Best bet is to either find an iontophoresis device OR use a good vehicle (oleyl) and exfoliate + dermaroll for better penetration.

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              • simba
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 103

                Originally posted by hellouser
                They used iontophoresis in the study but also *may* have used oleyl and propylene glycol as well. However, Cosmo has stated it will use an anhydrous (dry) vehicle.

                Best bet is to either find an iontophoresis device OR use a good vehicle (oleyl) and exfoliate + dermaroll for better penetration.
                Anhydrous means no water, which is different to "dry" (so still likely oleyl).

                Im gonna risk derma roller + minox + cb with oleyl/glycol.

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                • simba
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 103

                  Does anyone here have decent knowledge of Chemistry?

                  If I were to buy some propylene glycol and oleyl alcohol individually and mix them together then add CB would that be enough or is there a special way of mixing it?

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    Originally posted by simba
                    Does anyone here have decent knowledge of Chemistry?

                    If I were to buy some propylene glycol and oleyl alcohol individually and mix them together then add CB would that be enough or is there a special way of mixing it?
                    Thats all there is to it dude, its basically the same as RU.

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                    • Hairismylife
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 383

                      Originally posted by hellouser
                      They used iontophoresis in the study but also *may* have used oleyl and propylene glycol as well. However, Cosmo has stated it will use an anhydrous (dry) vehicle.

                      Best bet is to either find an iontophoresis device OR use a good vehicle (oleyl) and exfoliate + dermaroll for better penetration.
                      Where can I get oleyl and propylene glycol? Does Kane sell?

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                      • FearTheLoss
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1581

                        I know saying this is useless..but i hate cosmo for trailing the acne version first...we could have had cb by 2014-15 if they had trialled hair loss version first...depressing

                        guess we just need to find the vehicle

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                          I know saying this is useless..but i hate cosmo for trailing the acne version first...we could have had cb by 2014-15 if they had trialled hair loss version first...depressing

                          guess we just need to find the vehicle
                          Once their acne solution comes out, replicating the CB compound should be significantly easier. Wont matter how long it takes them to release it, we'll be using it regardless.

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                          • lilpauly
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1084

                            Trust me I'm working with chemist , engineers and experts and we will find the right vehicle . Cosmo is using 5 % in the future

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                            • FearTheLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1581

                              Originally posted by lilpauly
                              Trust me I'm working with chemist , engineers and experts and we will find the right vehicle . Cosmo is using 5 % in the future
                              lilpauly if you find the right vehicle this forum will praise you...

                              lilpauly's vacation fund donations on phg if you find it haha

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                                lilpauly if you find the right vehicle this forum will praise you...

                                lilpauly's vacation fund donations on phg if you find it haha
                                Just use oleyl/pg for now and dermaroll or at least exfoliate and shower before applying.

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